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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 15:14:20 GMT -5
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 16, 2016 20:04:12 GMT -5
10/10 As far as pilots go, this was perfect.
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Post by moiaf on Jul 16, 2016 22:00:44 GMT -5
I gave it an eight. A good episode but not as good as my top episodes.
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Post by katjushka on Jul 17, 2016 0:27:41 GMT -5
A 10, I still loved almost everything about it and the bits I didn't love were covered with bundles of other greatness.
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Post by izzue on Jul 17, 2016 1:10:47 GMT -5
9. A really great episode. I like the way you said it, katjushka, "the bits I didn't love were covered with bundles of other greatness."
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Post by konradsmith on Jul 17, 2016 3:25:12 GMT -5
An eight. There's a lot to be sentimental about in it of course but the amount of "as you know _______" style exposition in the dialogue is just way too much. D and D got much better at exposition and letting the audience figure character details and histories through much more subtle cues as the show went on. Pilots are always difficult in this way and sometimes they overload the exposition just to get it out of the way, which s1 didn't quite do, it was a massively exposition heavy season in general, not just in the pilot. But there's something to be said for integrating into dialogue and scenes without having to resort to, "hey remember when _____". Which I think they've gotten better and better at managing to do effectively.
Seeing the Starks happy of course is always tragic in retrospect. Especially seeing Rickon giving Jon arrows to put away, given how those two are reunited. Seeing Robert and Ned happy is even better imo and that relationship is the foundation of much of the season.
What really makes the episode (other than the lengths I could go to about how great-looking Emilia was in her first scene of the show) is its ending. That's the first moment on GoT that makes people go, "Jesus, this isn't an ordinary show." I remember my mum's "did that just happen!" reaction (I was unsullied then myself but had been spoiled about a ton of shit by spoiler-trolls on IMDB) and knew that HBO had pulled this off and that it was worth sticking through to the end of the season. Which in the end is what a pilot's supposed to do. By pulling off that moment, the hook, they earn the right to shoehorn exposition here and there throughout the subsequent episodes as well because they've created 1) an interest in Bran's fate and the aftermath of him being pushed and 2) an unpredictable setting where shit like that can happen and happen again. They didn't truly become GoT as GoT is known until Ned's death and then the RW...but that was the first big GoT moment that electrocuted people and sustained conversation and interest in the show going forward.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 9:52:02 GMT -5
It's a 9 from me. I'd make it a 10 but then pretty much every other episode would also be a 10 so I'll keep it varied, and there are some episodes which are better than this one.
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Post by Envie on Jul 17, 2016 10:05:11 GMT -5
A 10, I still loved almost everything about it and the bits I didn't love were covered with bundles of other greatness. It was a 10 from me as well for those wonderful bundles! As konradsmith pointed out, this was an exposition heavy premiere so some of the dialogue bogged down a tad. But given how heavy it was in the books and setting up each character's story arc from nothing and having it actually make sense to non-book readers was a huge challenge for the writers. I was willing to give them some slack on this in general for the first few episodes. I knew when HBO announced the show that this would be a make-it-or-break-it kind of premiere because of how challenging it would be to set the stage without going overboard and drowning the audience. I was fearful it would tank and then ecstatic when I watched it and knew right away we had a winner series starting. What made this a 10 for me was weighing out each scene individually as it's own entity. The entire episode has to really entertain me front to back and this one did it. Not just because it was the first, but because the characters were all portrayed perfectly and the actors knocked it out of the park for me with those portrayals. As I said in my Favorites post, Theon was the only character I wasn't really sure about only because Alfie Allen hadn't yet proven to me he would make a perfect Theon and didn't look at all like described in the books. Turns out he became one of the strongest actors of the entire series and has tackled the challenge of how difficult Theon's evolution over time really was with such amazing talent I'm sorry to ever say I disliked him at the start. He's fantastic. Seeing the Starks so happy together as a family, the sibling rivalries, the immediate tensions between Starks and Lannisters, it was all so awesome and this episode remains one of my favorite top tens of the series.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 9:06:21 GMT -5
9/10. Great opening episode that instantly had me interested in the series. Love the contrast between the two major settings in Winterfell and Pentos. It really did a great job at fleshing out the characters right off the bat. Directed by one of my favorite Sopranos director's Tim Van Patten too.
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Post by khaella on Jul 18, 2016 18:35:16 GMT -5
I went with a 9 because it's great for a pilot and starts some intrigue with Cat getting the note, Bran catching Jaime and Cersei. I still remember watching this with my husband the first time and he was like wait, aren't they brother and sister? LOL I wish that I had taken a picture of his face at that moment!
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Post by freypies on Jul 19, 2016 12:36:23 GMT -5
This was never one of my favourite episodes, but is pretty good for a pilot.
My biggest problem with it is that I feel that there is a chunk in the middle after Robert's arrival, especially when the story moves to Essos, where the pacing slows to a crawl as scenes take too long, and it doesn't really pick up until we get to the end scene with Bran.
The scene with Tyrion in the brothels with Jaime speeding things up is one of my least favourite scenes in the show. I also feel that there is a little bit too much gratuity in this episode, perhaps more so than in any other except maybe You Win Or You Die.
That said, there are many, many good qualities to this episode as well. The beginning is amazing in my personal opinion, with a very unique vibe that immediately differentiates the show. I loved most of the interactions in Winterfell/The North, especially the first scene establishing all the Starks, and the execution following it The king's arrival was great, as was the feast scene. They nailed Arya, an the conversation between Jon and Tyrion. Robert, of course, was magnetic. And, of course, it was great to see my favourite character, Bran, be front and centre.
Overall, it was a good enough episode, but is not up to the same quality as several of the ones preceding it. It's a high 7/low 8 for me. Going to go with an 8 I think.
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Post by dje on Jul 27, 2016 21:05:52 GMT -5
I give it a 10, it kicks off the series in an excellent way, some great foreshadowing on things to come, and the perfect WTF cliffhanger ending.
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Post by Lady Sansa's Direwolf on Jun 14, 2017 17:14:57 GMT -5
Just came back to watch again after the Winds of Winter, and I have to give this a 9 out of 10.
It is probably one of the best series openers, yet not the best Game of Thrones episode. I'm glad they got ride of Tyrion's ridiculous blonde hair, it was so obviously wrong for him.
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Post by izzue on Jun 25, 2017 11:36:04 GMT -5
Just came back to watch again after the Winds of Winter, and I have to give this a 9 out of 10. It is probably one of the best series openers, yet not the best Game of Thrones episode. I'm glad they got ride of Tyrion's ridiculous blonde hair, it was so obviously wrong for him. I noticed this episode was shown on HBO on 6/21/17 - my recorder automatically picks up any GOT episodes, so I plan to watch it this afternoon. Obviously, they don't have time to start with S1.1 and get up to date before S7 begins, so they must be planning to just hit the highlights for 'quasi-watchers'. [And I, too, am horrified every time I see Tyrion's hair job from that first season! ]
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Post by moiaf on Jun 25, 2017 11:41:38 GMT -5
It's so funny, I liked at the title and I thought it was for season 7 and was confused. Very present of us to start our re-watch exactly one year before the next season would start.
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