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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 7:34:17 GMT -5
Rate 1x07.
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Post by day dreamer on Aug 6, 2016 13:19:00 GMT -5
5. This is the result of knowing what's going to happen. I probably enjoyed it at the time, but I found it very frustrating to watch just about everyone except Dany and Osha in this episode.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 15:07:03 GMT -5
9. I took one point for the LF brothel scene, but other than that everything else was brilliant. I really did forget how great Mark Addy was after all these years. He was just fantastic as King Robert. His deathbed scene might be the strongest performance he gave on the show.
Still think the second half of S1 is the strongest run of episodes to date.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 18:39:05 GMT -5
Somewhere between a 9 and a 10, so I'll round up. Yeah that brothel scene isn't good but the rest is solid
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Post by moiaf on Aug 6, 2016 20:20:33 GMT -5
I gave it an 8. A good episode overall but the Littlefinger brother scene is just so gross, I just can't. The acting was tight and the've gotten the pacing down pat.
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 8, 2016 5:30:45 GMT -5
I guess a low eight. Beginning with Tywin and Jaime and then going to Cersei and Ned was such a strong opener...and then we get that brothel scene. Which I hate so much I was tempted to give it a seven. But the intrigue in KL and the pacing of the episode's second half was such that I didn't dock quite so much off of it. I'll save my sevens for the few episodes I like less than this (and maybe even one six depending on how much of a bad taste in my mouth my least favourite episode 202 leaves this time). It's not just the shitty softcore moaning and gyrating, Ros holding a conversation whilst getting up to her business with Aremca, the ridiculous staging of it all and LF's hammy monologue that makes it shitty...the scene is also just plainly WAY TOO long. It's just drawn-out and as unsexy as such a scene could ever be. If the Viserys-Doreah scene was "sexposition" done well, this was it at its very worst. The whole thing doesn't gel. The idea that throwing throwing two people squawking and getting at it in the background while a plot point is being detailed, particularly this one built upon the conceit that LF would divulge all of this on this of all occasions...just makes for lousy TV. Which isn't to say that the technique used in s1 and s2 that was called "sexposition" was always done awfully, sometimes it fit decently enough. But this one and a few others in s1 and s2 were a good part of the reason there was a sort of stigma about admitting to liking this show early on. The problem is never one of the nudity and sex itself, those fits very naturally within the show's fabric. Its just how inartfully moments like this one were handled. All ranting aside the only other thing that kind of bugged me and was the case all through s1 was some of Theon's writing. How in every scene he goes on about "the Ironborn do this" and "the Ironborn do that". I think there could've been much subtler and more effective ways of explaining his motivations and history. That said the moment between Luwin and Osha that it led up to was a good one. Their relationship had to be set up early on to make her putting him out of his misery in ep. 210 have some resonance. Onto the good. We saw the last of Mark Addy's Robert this episode and he gave some of his best work. The death rattle version of his cackle is especially good. Sean Bean is also effective as Ned, miscalculating one time too many. His reaction shots convey a helluva lot. You can tell the exact moments that he decides not to go with Renly and LF's respective plans and the exact cynical lines from them that rub him the wrong way and make him go with his gut instead. Jason Momoa also had some of his better moments, his tender one with Dany in their yurt and his freakout and rallying of his men in the temple. Funny to think it's the same temple Dany later burns to a crisp... While I never liked Drogo in the least myself (and his plans for Westeros are decidedly shitty and nasty ones), on some level in his passion for him you can see why Dany would care about him. Even if she's better off the one in charge instead of and without him. Meeting Charles Dance is a great moment unto itself. He really came to dominate the show, especially in s3 and s4, and having him dress down Jaime (while dressing down a stag, mind you) and actually get under his skin (while getting under the stags skin ), showed without having to say so just how important he is to Jaime. Jaime who'd previoulsy been pretty undaunted in his scenes and tended to get the last word, here is made to feel like a little kid. It helps, I guess that Dance is taller than him. But that's just superb casting. Even their noses match.
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Post by dje on Aug 8, 2016 6:12:54 GMT -5
6, This is my first meh episode of the season, I enjoyed a few tings about this episode, but the brothel scene absolutely kills the ep for me. My favs were the introduction of Tywin, Jon and Sam taking their vows, and Ned and Cersei's win or die talk in the God's wood.
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Post by Envie on Aug 9, 2016 22:50:28 GMT -5
I'm giving this one a 7. I'm late to the rankings discussion but konradsmith really summed it up perfectly so I'll go with what he said but docking an extra point because I don't like the ending scene of this episode and never have. I have never liked Littlefinger's comicbook villain routine and having him 'betray' Ned at the last second like that. I know it's pretty much the same as it was in the books and maybe I just didn't find it believable there either but it's just always been a sticky plot to me. Aside from the stupid brothel scene, I pretty much liked everything else in the episode though as I said in general discussion, I felt this episode went back to some of the over-dramatized dialogue that episode 3 suffered and it's noticeable. Oh right, I also never realized that by this episode, we've now had to listen to Theon brag about himself being a mighty Lord and basically act like an arrogant twat three or four times. That may have possibly been one time too many for me. Ok, yes we get it, he's a twat. So yeah, 7/10 for me, probably one of the lowest scores I will give, I'm pretty generous usually.
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Post by Lady Sansa's Direwolf on Aug 10, 2016 10:55:20 GMT -5
8 out of 10
I've always disliked how quickly Ned gets hung out to dry. Littlefinger's timing is so perfect as to be circumspect, and the scene with Ros and the other whore were not only too long, but a little hard to watch. Love the introduction of Tywin and his dressing down of Jamie. It helps us see the Kingslayer might have been happy to join the Kings Guard to escape the thumb of his highly critical father.
Robert's death is well done. Mark Addy did great justice to the drunken king, and the rest of season one is lonely without him.
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Post by izzue on Jul 2, 2017 19:45:24 GMT -5
I just re-watched this, rated it an 8 and felt a little guilty, because I don't often go below a 9, but it just felt more like plot advancement than anything else to me. The plot development was definitely important, and I still loved watching it again, but it somehow seemed just a little anticlimactic. And I think during this rewatch, especially after doing the S5 and S6 re-watch the past few months, I've been expecting more foreshadowing (like the episode A Golden Crown, which just seemed full of it.) Still, good - there are no GOT episodes I'd give a low rating to. I'm glad to get every last one of them!
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