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Post by Envie on Oct 18, 2016 19:34:28 GMT -5
Also ... worth reminding ourselves as cami pointed out from the Doc's posts/messages ... he said a few of the leaked points he could confirm but most of it he didn't know about... which leads me to believe IF he does know leaks this season, he's trying to skirt around that and be vague but also hinting some of it's true. SOME. Key word there. So we can probably pick out the most likely points (like you did before) and dismiss the rest as garbage. At least I sure hope it's garbage... especially the bits about Cersei and the undead and being pregnant. Those sound like...ugh, AMC type drama.
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Post by mandzipop on Oct 18, 2016 19:36:08 GMT -5
I can't see that Jon would want to fight Cersei. It isn't his battle. He doesn't need to take over Westeros. He doesn't have the army to do it. Unless LF tries to talk him into it. Suggesting that the only way to save the realm from the Whitewalkers is to take the Iron Throne. But Jon isn't that stupid or gullible. LF would suggest to let Dany and Cersei battle it out and then use the north and the Vale to fight the weakest force. According to the leaker he doesn't want to. I don't know if this has been posted, but here there are a lot of answers to questions via PM. The King Landing stuff its at the end: imgur.com/a/LgCvo There's a lot where he completely contradicts himself which leads me to believe that he knows snippets, uses common sense and the rest is rubbish. Gendry being in Kings Landing wouldn't be far-fetched as a lot of people had worked out Gendry was back as he was snapped at Belfast airport with his Gendry haircolour (his hair is normally lighter than that). I'm wondering if this guy has had access to sort of locations list. He's from Dublin (not a million miles from Belfast). He knew the hotels the cast were staying in in Belfast. Knowing what actors are where and when they are staying.
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Post by Envie on Oct 18, 2016 19:37:55 GMT -5
According to the leaker he doesn't want to. I don't know if this has been posted, but here there are a lot of answers to questions via PM. The King Landing stuff its at the end: imgur.com/a/LgCvo There's a lot where he completely contradicts himself which leads me to believe that he knows snippets, uses common sense and the rest is rubbish. Gendry being in Kings Landing wouldn't be far-fetched as a lot of people had worked out Gendry was back as he was snapped at Belfast airport with his Gendry haircolour (his hair is normally lighter than that). I'm wondering if this guy has had access to sort of locations list. He's from Dublin (not a million miles from Belfast). He knew the hotels the cast were staying in in Belfast. Knowing what actors are where and when they are staying. Yeah when he was mentioning the routine for cast members and such it made me think maybe he's been around the set before or was even an extra which is how he might have some info he shouldn't have.
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Post by moiaf on Oct 18, 2016 19:43:27 GMT -5
I don't want to read more of these leaks, they make my stomach hurt. I know! I agree. Although a few things in the list of leaks they gave are kind of cool, some of them are downright awful sounding and stupid. Which is why I think it might be bogus or misdirection purposely thrown in there for good measure to make sure they aren't trapped without the ability to claim they were just speculating. I still think a lot of it is bullshit but reading the "corrections" a lot of it does sound plausible. If you read the KL stuff cami pointed to,he changed his mind and said it was Dany who confronts the Lannisters after they defeat the Tyrells. That she burns the Tarley's alive and that Varys and Tyrion start to question whether she's the right kind of queen. While I do expect shit to go south with the Cersei/Euron tag team and for Dany to fuck up a few more times because she's human. It kind of annoyed me because of the scene Dany had with Tyrion. I feel like there is an understanding with them. I do I maybe I'm being sensitive because it's Dany. The death of Viserion sounds absolutely crazy though. Like crazy. And the timeline doesn't add up, there is just way too much going on. And Euron is suspiciously missing from a lot of this I think. Oh, and the letter that Littlefinger supposedly gives to Arya. The one Sansa send to Robb and her mom when Ned was first imprissoned. Why would he Starks keep it? And how would Littlefinger know where to find it? I'm also hung up on the annulment thing with Rhaegar. I just feel like something like that would be really hard to keep a secret and I find it really hard to believe that the high septon would just agree to do it. I don't doubt that Rhaegar and Lyanna had a marriage but to get an annulment potentially disinheriting his kids with Elia. Also, how would Rhaegar had known Jon would be a boy? I mean, technically Aerys could have gone along with it because he was a racist pig and thought the children were tainted. So, I guess they could go with that angle. Still, this makes Rhaegar look even worse because if he got his dad to at least approve an annulment from his part (the high septon might not have agreed) then the least Rhaegar could have done is to make sure that Elia and the kids would be send to Dorne so they could be safe. Sorry for the thought salad, I'm thinking out loud.
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Post by mandzipop on Oct 18, 2016 19:45:09 GMT -5
Also ... worth reminding ourselves as cami pointed out from the Doc's posts/messages ... he said a few of the leaked points he could confirm but most of it he didn't know about... which leads me to believe IF he does know leaks this season, he's trying to skirt around that and be vague but also hinting some of it's true. SOME. Key word there. So we can probably pick out the most likely points (like you did before) and dismiss the rest as garbage. At least I sure hope it's garbage... especially the bits about Cersei and the undead and being pregnant. Those sound like...ugh, AMC type drama. I've done some calculations about Cersei's pregnancy and if the leaks are true, she's having an elephant. My estimation is that baby conception would be before Jamie goes to the Riverlands. Between then and Varys being on the boat it must be around 2-3 months. The leaker says there's a time-skip at the start of the season (which makes no sense as Bran hasn't passed the wall yet). For all the events to take place (including a time-skip), it has to be more than 7 months. Also this wight business. It wouldn't be animated in Kings Landing unless there is a decent amount of snow. It would rot (like the hand Ser Alliser took to Kings Landing). There's more holes in the leakers plot than a collander.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Oct 18, 2016 19:48:03 GMT -5
I don't know what to think anymore about those leaks. Some of them seems kind of cool (a dragon turning wight, Nymeria's return), but most of it sounds really, really awful (Cersei being pregnant, the Dragonpit scene, LF vs Arya). Sadly, somehow, a part of me is beginning to believe some of the leaks. One of the reasons is the fact that Sue from WotW just refused to talk about it, instead of straight up tearing apart the leaks as she usually does when a fake leak pop up. It reminds me of her last year simply refusing to talk about the SNOWBOWL spoilers once they became known in the web. Well, we'll know soon enough if this guy is legit or not with the shooting spoilers in the next weeks.
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Post by Envie on Oct 18, 2016 19:49:45 GMT -5
Also ... worth reminding ourselves as cami pointed out from the Doc's posts/messages ... he said a few of the leaked points he could confirm but most of it he didn't know about... which leads me to believe IF he does know leaks this season, he's trying to skirt around that and be vague but also hinting some of it's true. SOME. Key word there. So we can probably pick out the most likely points (like you did before) and dismiss the rest as garbage. At least I sure hope it's garbage... especially the bits about Cersei and the undead and being pregnant. Those sound like...ugh, AMC type drama. I've done some calculations about Cersei's pregnancy and if the leaks are true, she's having an elephant. My estimation is that baby conception would be before Jamie goes to the Riverlands. Between then and Varys being on the boat it must be around 2-3 months. The leaker says there's a time-skip at the start of the season (which makes no sense as Bran hasn't passed the wall yet). For all the events to take place (including a time-skip), it has to be more than 7 months. Also this wight business. It wouldn't be animated in Kings Landing unless there is a decent amount of snow. It would rot (like the hand Ser Alliser took to Kings Landing). There's more holes in the leakers plot than a collander. The Pastafarians would approve! (oh and lets not forget how long Baby Sam has been a baby though... )
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Post by moiaf on Oct 18, 2016 19:57:06 GMT -5
I've done some calculations about Cersei's pregnancy and if the leaks are true, she's having an elephant. My estimation is that baby conception would be before Jamie goes to the Riverlands. Between then and Varys being on the boat it must be around 2-3 months. The leaker says there's a time-skip at the start of the season (which makes no sense as Bran hasn't passed the wall yet). For all the events to take place (including a time-skip), it has to be more than 7 months. Also this wight business. It wouldn't be animated in Kings Landing unless there is a decent amount of snow. It would rot (like the hand Ser Alliser took to Kings Landing). There's more holes in the leakers plot than a collander. The Pastafarians would approve! (oh and lets not forget how long Baby Sam has been a baby though... ) Although, technically the baby should be more than two years old. I think in total only 4 years have passed.
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Post by moiaf on Oct 18, 2016 19:59:19 GMT -5
Also ... worth reminding ourselves as cami pointed out from the Doc's posts/messages ... he said a few of the leaked points he could confirm but most of it he didn't know about... which leads me to believe IF he does know leaks this season, he's trying to skirt around that and be vague but also hinting some of it's true. SOME. Key word there. So we can probably pick out the most likely points (like you did before) and dismiss the rest as garbage. At least I sure hope it's garbage... especially the bits about Cersei and the undead and being pregnant. Those sound like...ugh, AMC type drama. I've done some calculations about Cersei's pregnancy and if the leaks are true, she's having an elephant. My estimation is that baby conception would be before Jamie goes to the Riverlands. Between then and Varys being on the boat it must be around 2-3 months. The leaker says there's a time-skip at the start of the season (which makes no sense as Bran hasn't passed the wall yet). For all the events to take place (including a time-skip), it has to be more than 7 months. Also this wight business. It wouldn't be animated in Kings Landing unless there is a decent amount of snow. It would rot (like the hand Ser Alliser took to Kings Landing).There's more holes in the leakers plot than a collander. That's true. And while the North might be in the full swing of winter, it's just started in the South. Otherwise they would have filmed KL somewhere were there would be snow, not the South of Spain.
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Post by mandzipop on Oct 18, 2016 20:05:05 GMT -5
I don't know what to think anymore about those leaks. Some of them seems kind of cool (a dragon turning wight, Nymeria's return), but most of it sounds really, really awful (Cersei being pregnant, the Dragonpit scene, LF vs Arya). Sadly, somehow, a part of me is beginning to believe some of the leaks. One of the reasons is the fact that Sue from WotW just refused to talk about it, instead of straight up tearing apart the leaks as she usually does when a fake leak pop up. It reminds me of her last year simply refusing to talk about the SNOWBOWL spoilers once they became known in the web. Well, we'll know soon enough if this guy is legit or not with the shooting spoilers in the next weeks. I think it is because some of them are true and she can't confirm them. Look at the conversation today that took place about Gendry. She never mentioned anything in her reports and all of the tweets were removed in relation it being obviously Gendry. Kit has been filming in Belfast for around a month. We only know of one week where it was definitely Winterfell scenes. Surely they haven't filmed all of the Northern Ireland filming already.
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Post by moiaf on Oct 18, 2016 20:06:11 GMT -5
I don't know what to think anymore about those leaks. Some of them seems kind of cool (a dragon turning wight, Nymeria's return), but most of it sounds really, really awful (Cersei being pregnant, the Dragonpit scene, LF vs Arya). Sadly, somehow, a part of me is beginning to believe some of the leaks. One of the reasons is the fact that Sue from WotW just refused to talk about it, instead of straight up tearing apart the leaks as she usually does when a fake leak pop up. It reminds me of her last year simply refusing to talk about the SNOWBOWL spoilers once they became known in the web. Well, we'll know soon enough if this guy is legit or not with the shooting spoilers in the next weeks. Honestly, I think that Sue, Javi and the Doc cant disprove them because there is not way of them knowing. What they know is based of what is being filmed (or schedule to film) I think, so if it hasn't been filmed their sources can't confirm or deny anything. The leaker so far has been able to accurately say which actors and locations have been paired up but most of what he's leaked hasn't bee filmed yet. I don't remember reading anything in his leaks about the scene is Winterfell which includes Jon, Davos, Brienne, Sansa, Littlefinger, Ser Royce and perhaps Arya. Plus the two other actors it suppose to be a high stakes scene so something somewhat important is happening to have all those actors together. I think Manz is right, he has an idea of which actors and in what location they'll be filming.
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Post by mandzipop on Oct 18, 2016 20:09:08 GMT -5
The Pastafarians would approve! (oh and lets not forget how long Baby Sam has been a baby though... ) Although, technically the baby should be more than two years old. I think in total only 4 years have passed. The winter cold weather is moving south very slowly, however it was still warm in the Riverlands when the Hound was doing his stuff. I can't see it snowing in Kings Landing by the end of season 7.
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Post by moiaf on Oct 18, 2016 20:51:03 GMT -5
This guy provided a good breakdown of some of the holes in the leaks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/5846r6/repost_a_response_from_uawayforthelads/
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Post by mandzipop on Oct 18, 2016 20:54:06 GMT -5
If this leaker has got some sort of logistics report/filming schedule/hotels where the cast are staying, every single spoiler that comes out is going to tally up with what he says. The only thing that can disprove him will be photographic evidence.
Get hold of the names of some of the administrative assistants, phone round the hotels in the area pretending to be from the show confirming cast bookings and dates. Combined with the WotW info, you could get a lot of information by just doing that and make up a lot of his stories with filming info to back you up.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Oct 18, 2016 20:57:01 GMT -5
This guy provided a good breakdown of some of the holes in the leaks. https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/5846r6/repost_a_response_from_uawayforthelads/ I found something interesting here in the comments: "Special effects company utilized for an evening scene. Instructed to have a clear shot of an eastern sunset over the open sea illuminating the water. Good authority the sunset scene is in the season finale and part of the final shots." The sun doesn't set in the east. Hints at Dany's prophecy.
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