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Post by mandzipop on Dec 30, 2016 11:32:26 GMT -5
I'm not so sure about Jon only being able to be killed by the Night King or what have you. It makes Jon to invincible and GRRM, as well as D & D, seem to enjoy having an equal counter balance to things. Dany has 3 dragons, which makes her seem unstoppable, but the playing field gets evened out by (a possible) dragon weapon and the Night King getting Viserion. I don't doubt that Jon is special, but I think it is a bit of stretch to think he can only be killed by the Night King. Considering he is the male hero of the story, I doubt anyone else will kill him. I just think there must be another reason he was killed and brought back. Getting him out of his Night's Watch vows isn't enough for my liking.
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Post by mandzipop on Dec 30, 2016 11:51:06 GMT -5
We ought to set up a fake Reddit account and expand on some of the lads leaks. I'm feeling left out not being a leaker.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 12:03:20 GMT -5
We ought to set up a fake Reddit account and expand on some of the lads leaks. I'm feeling left out not being a leaker. ikr. Surely we are all capable of concocting a vaguely coherent plot for the season that is supported by filming, is plausible and contradicts everything other leakers have said
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Post by Lils on Dec 30, 2016 12:03:41 GMT -5
We ought to set up a fake Reddit account and expand on some of the lads leaks. I'm feeling left out not being a leaker. I've got your first leak from a friend's cousin's brother's roommate. The wight that they capture is a reanimated Jojen
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Post by moiaf on Dec 30, 2016 12:59:23 GMT -5
We ought to set up a fake Reddit account and expand on some of the lads leaks. I'm feeling left out not being a leaker. We ought to set up a fake Reddit account and expand on some of the lads leaks. I'm feeling left out not being a leaker. ikr. Surely we are all capable of concocting a vaguely coherent plot for the season that is supported by filming, is plausible and contradicts everything other leakers have said We ought to set up a fake Reddit account and expand on some of the lads leaks. I'm feeling left out not being a leaker. I've got your first leak from a friend's cousin's brother's roommate. The wight that they capture is a reanimated Jojen This is exactly what I said in the other thread before it closed. I'm telling you, we can come up with something good. Here is my contribution to the cause: Leak IThe meeting with between Tyrion and Jaime in King's Landing does not go well. Jaime is furious with him for killing their father, for siding with Daenerys as well as the recent ambush. However, given the Lannister lost in the ambush he agree to the parlay at the Dragonpit. While Bronn is taking Tyrion back to his boat he mentions Jaime's relationship with Brienne. Tyrion is a bit surprised but thanks him for the information. When he returns to Drgonstone he hears of Jon's plan to go North and asks Jon if he could bring Brienne with him when he return from his mission. When they all wonder why he wants Brienne to come to the parlay he explains what Bronn told him and that having her on their side can help sway Jaime to leave Cersei and join their cause. Leak IIWhile Sam is at the Citadel he begins to search for information about the Long Night and the Wight Walkers. However, he soon finds that any information regarding magic is locked away in the restricted room in the Citadel library which is guarded by a Maester at all times. One night while he's assigned to put books away he passes the room and notices that the Maester guarding it has fallen asleep. Sam sees this as the only opportunity he'll have to go into that part of the library. Although scared, he steals the Maester's keys and enters the room. He know he doesn't have much time so he begins to scan for books and scrolls that make any mention of the Long Night and the Wight Walkers. Once his has as many books and scrolls he dares to take he leaves the room and returns the keys to the sleeping Maester. He can't keep the books and scrolls in his room because a Maester or a fellow accolades might find them so he takes them to the tavern where Gilly is living at. Gilly begins to read through the books and something is mentioned which reminds her of what her father use to do with her brother. When she sees Sam again, she mentions what she finds. Sam doesn't know what to make of it but as he begins to study the books and scrolls he begins to realize that what Gilly described and what he learns from the books is connected to Winterfell and the old King's of Winter. He decides that he has to go there to verify his findings. They all leave to Winterfell the next day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 13:09:30 GMT -5
I started catching up on all the "leaks" and then just went like this: Fuck this shit.
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Post by mandzipop on Dec 30, 2016 13:39:37 GMT -5
We ought to set up a fake Reddit account and expand on some of the lads leaks. I'm feeling left out not being a leaker. ikr. Surely we are all capable of concocting a vaguely coherent plot for the season that is supported by filming, is plausible and contradicts everything other leakers have said I've got your first leak from a friend's cousin's brother's roommate. The wight that they capture is a reanimated Jojen This is exactly what I said in the other thread before it closed. I'm telling you, we can come up with something good. Here is my contribution to the cause: Leak IThe meeting with between Tyrion and Jaime in King's Landing does not go well. Jaime is furious with him for killing their father, for siding with Daenerys as well as the recent ambush. However, given the Lannister lost in the ambush he agree to the parlay at the Dragonpit. While Bronn is taking Tyrion back to his boat he mentions Jaime's relationship with Brienne. Tyrion is a bit surprised but thanks him for the information. When he returns to Drgonstone he hears of Jon's plan to go North and asks Jon if he could bring Brienne with him when he return from his mission. When they all wonder why he wants Brienne to come to the parlay he explains what Bronn told him and that having her on their side can help sway Jaime to leave Cersei and join their cause. Leak IIWhile Sam is at the Citadel he begins to search for information about the Long Night and the Wight Walkers. However, he soon finds that any information regarding magic is locked away in the restricted room in the Citadel library which is guarded by a Maester at all times. One night while he's assigned to put books away he passes the room and notices that the Maester guarding it has fallen asleep. Sam sees this as the only opportunity he'll have to go into that part of the library. Although scared, he steals the Maester's keys and enters the room. He know he doesn't have much time so he begins to scan for books and scrolls that make any mention of the Long Night and the Wight Walkers. Once his has as many books and scrolls he dares to take he leaves the room and returns the keys to the sleeping Maester. He can't keep the books and scrolls in his room because a Maester or a fellow accolades might find them so he takes them to the tavern where Gilly is living at. Gilly begins to read through the books and something is mentioned which reminds her of what her father use to do with her brother. When she sees Sam again, she mentions what she finds. Sam doesn't know what to make of it but as he begins to study the books and scrolls he begins to realize that what Gilly described and what he learns from the books is connected to Winterfell and the old King's of Winter. He decides that he has to go there to verify his findings. They all leave to Winterfell the next day. I'm liking it. Nothing too controversial. Fits in perfectly with Lads leaks. It just expands on them. Next to consider is how this information was obtained. It would get ripped to shreds. Plan needs to be formulated on how this information was accessed. People will question whether it was storyboard, hearsay etc... I'd personally suggest props. All letters and scrolls have exactly what is supposed to be written on them. If Jon sends a letter to Brienne and mentions Bronn, the majority of leak 1 could be gained from that letter. Similar with leak 2. The props team make books that would be in the magic section. They would also make scrolls. They would also that Gilly has a room in a tavern due to the props that they would make. Being told that the reason that they leave for Winterfell is due to some information that Gilly finds out in one of the scrolls. We would know it was Gilly because the information wouldn't mean anything to anyone else other than Gilly. The only way she'd have access is if Sam was sneaking it out to her.
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Post by moiaf on Dec 30, 2016 13:46:14 GMT -5
This is exactly what I said in the other thread before it closed. I'm telling you, we can come up with something good. Here is my contribution to the cause: Leak IThe meeting with between Tyrion and Jaime in King's Landing does not go well. Jaime is furious with him for killing their father, for siding with Daenerys as well as the recent ambush. However, given the Lannister lost in the ambush he agree to the parlay at the Dragonpit. While Bronn is taking Tyrion back to his boat he mentions Jaime's relationship with Brienne. Tyrion is a bit surprised but thanks him for the information. When he returns to Drgonstone he hears of Jon's plan to go North and asks Jon if he could bring Brienne with him when he return from his mission. When they all wonder why he wants Brienne to come to the parlay he explains what Bronn told him and that having her on their side can help sway Jaime to leave Cersei and join their cause. Leak IIWhile Sam is at the Citadel he begins to search for information about the Long Night and the Wight Walkers. However, he soon finds that any information regarding magic is locked away in the restricted room in the Citadel library which is guarded by a Maester at all times. One night while he's assigned to put books away he passes the room and notices that the Maester guarding it has fallen asleep. Sam sees this as the only opportunity he'll have to go into that part of the library. Although scared, he steals the Maester's keys and enters the room. He know he doesn't have much time so he begins to scan for books and scrolls that make any mention of the Long Night and the Wight Walkers. Once his has as many books and scrolls he dares to take he leaves the room and returns the keys to the sleeping Maester. He can't keep the books and scrolls in his room because a Maester or a fellow accolades might find them so he takes them to the tavern where Gilly is living at. Gilly begins to read through the books and something is mentioned which reminds her of what her father use to do with her brother. When she sees Sam again, she mentions what she finds. Sam doesn't know what to make of it but as he begins to study the books and scrolls he begins to realize that what Gilly described and what he learns from the books is connected to Winterfell and the old King's of Winter. He decides that he has to go there to verify his findings. They all leave to Winterfell the next day. I'm liking it. Nothing too controversial. Fits in perfectly with Lads leaks. It just expands on them. Next to consider is how this information was obtained. It would get ripped to shreds. Plan needs to be formulated on how this information was accessed. People will question whether it was storyboard, hearsay etc... I'd personally suggest props. All letters and scrolls have exactly what is supposed to be written on them. If Jon sends a letter to Brienne and mentions Bronn, the majority of leak 1 could be gained from that letter. Similar with leak 2. The props team make books that would be in the magic section. They would also make scrolls. They would also that Gilly has a room in a tavern due to the props that they would make. Being told that the reason that they leave for Winterfell is due to some information that Gilly finds out in one of the scrolls. We would know it was Gilly because the information wouldn't mean anything to anyone else other than Gilly. The only way she'd have access is if Sam was sneaking it out to her. Excellent suggestion. I like it, it's not too complicated and totally believable. Should we add a few more leaks?
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Post by mandzipop on Dec 30, 2016 13:59:24 GMT -5
I'm liking it. Nothing too controversial. Fits in perfectly with Lads leaks. It just expands on them. Next to consider is how this information was obtained. It would get ripped to shreds. Plan needs to be formulated on how this information was accessed. People will question whether it was storyboard, hearsay etc... I'd personally suggest props. All letters and scrolls have exactly what is supposed to be written on them. If Jon sends a letter to Brienne and mentions Bronn, the majority of leak 1 could be gained from that letter. Similar with leak 2. The props team make books that would be in the magic section. They would also make scrolls. They would also that Gilly has a room in a tavern due to the props that they would make. Being told that the reason that they leave for Winterfell is due to some information that Gilly finds out in one of the scrolls. We would know it was Gilly because the information wouldn't mean anything to anyone else other than Gilly. The only way she'd have access is if Sam was sneaking it out to her. Excellent suggestion. I like it, it's not too complicated and totally believable. Should we add a few more leaks? Maybe another 2? It has to be loosely based on Lads leaks though.
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Post by mandzipop on Dec 30, 2016 14:21:34 GMT -5
Leak 3
They do also find the annulment. There is also a maesters copy of the record of the birth with the child's name. My source refused to confirm the name on the parchment.
I think that would annoy people.
Leak 4
Robb's letter is correct. However, that isn't all that LF has. He has the letter from Sansa from season 6. There is also a letter written by LF to Sweet Robin telling him that Sansa is not a suitable bride for Sweet Robin due to her marriage to Ramsey and no longer being pure and that Sansa has agreed to marry LF and they will return to the Vale when Jon returns to Winterfell.
That should appease the Sansa haters. It would help the leaks gather strength.
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Post by Envie on Dec 30, 2016 14:27:33 GMT -5
Ok! It took me awhile (been super busy with my kid today and off work) but I managed to get through that wall of text on the new leak story. Thanks for posting that mandzipop I can't stomach trying to wade through reddit right now with all the misinterpretations and hate going on. When I have a bit more time (maybe tonight) I'll post the bits I found to be blatant contradictions. Not just those that contradicted Lads and leaks we already know are confirmed but where the guy outright contradicts himself in the same exact leak post! One place he does this is when he says Edd dies in the battle against the wights but then later the injured Edd returns to Castle Black. This is just one example in big list of them which should further our evidence against most of this leak being legit at all. I do think some of it's real and a whole lot of it's speculation built upon what's already known (filming and Lads leaks). *EDIT: Nevermind my last paragraph (which I just deleted). Just realized the wall-of-text-story leak is from a different reddit user, not Cine. I cannot keep all these sudden rash of leakers straight!
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Post by ladystoneboobs on Dec 30, 2016 20:24:57 GMT -5
Seven hells, I think I just read through 15 pages this time in this thread and the previous. Y'all are doing the Lord's work keeping up with and debunking all this shit. This place is gonna be a real mess right up til the day 7.07 airs.
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Post by mandzipop on Dec 30, 2016 20:29:46 GMT -5
Seven hells, I think I just read through 15 pages this time in this thread and the previous. Y'all are doing the Lord's work keeping up with and debunking all this shit. This place is gonna be a real mess right up til the day 7.07 airs. The next set of leaks are due very shortly.
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Post by mandzipop on Dec 30, 2016 21:01:55 GMT -5
Last one from Cine
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/5l79dv/last_spoilers/
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Post by StarkL on Dec 30, 2016 21:09:32 GMT -5
He said he thought Sansa would die, but then reveals now Cersei will die lol
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