Post by archanabrownwalker on Apr 19, 2017 5:50:14 GMT -5
True identity of Lemore has been a matter of great deal of discussion. Recently I was listening to a podcast by Radio Westeros and found their theory on Lemore pretty good. Lemore could be Wenda the White Fawn in disguise. Wenda was a member of the Kingswood Brotherhood, an outlaw band who had support of the poor before the Kingsguard led by none other than Arthur Dayne eliminated most of them. One member was sent to the Wall.
During their travel, Tyrion notices stretchmarks on her stomach, implying that she has given birth,
So it is possible that she was pregnant or had given birth recently when Brotherhood was attacked by the Kingguard. Dayne being an honorable Kingsguard, might have spared her life as a reason. He might have sent her to the septas instead of taking her to Mad King's court where she would have almost certainly be executed. GRRM has told us to "keep reading" when someone asked him why Dayne quietly obeyed orders from the Mad King. Maybe Dayne was doing what he can to save others while working within his Kingsguard vows. That would have kept her in a debt to the Kingsguard. When the time came, she was called in by Jon Con (or some other loyalist) to repay that debt by nurturing Aegon. So just like Jon Con, even she might think Aegon is actually Aegon.
Another possibility is that she is associated with the Golden Company and knows that Aegon is a Blackfyre. Kingswood Brotherhood was led by Simon Toyne and Myles Toyne was a leader of Golden Company in the past. So maybe she fled to Essos to seek refuge with another Toyne because Simon was her baby's father.
Wenda would be of the right age to be Lemore and was said to be young and fair in a Jamie chapter in AFFC,
Yet another possibility is that she is a member of House Cafferen. She used to brandish her highborn captives with a fawn on their arse as Merrett Frey remembers,
Sigil of House Cafferen is white fawn and that would explain her nickname too. Furthermore, House Cafferen was a Targ loyalist before they were defeated during Robert's Rebellion after which they fought for Robert. That would mean she was a member of a Targ loyalist family when she fled to Essos. That might have led her to raise the supposed heir to House Targ.
Other prominent theories include Ashara Dayne, Tyene's mother, Malora Hightower, Serra etc. I will gloss over them. Please post comments if you find something that i overlooked or if you don't agree. If she was Ashara, Tyrion was immediately noticed her distinctive eyes. He was attentive (and pervy) enough to notice her stretch marks. So why not her eyes?
Tyene was born of a septa as we find out in an Areo chapter in AFFC,
But during The Queenmaker chapter in AFFC, we find out that Arianne and Snakes had crossed Mander to visit Tyene's mother,
Lemore in all likelihood returning to Westeros after a long time and had no reason to be away from Aegon just to meet Arianne. Arianne or Snakes had no idea about Aegon's existence until recently so that it is not likely that Lemore was passing information about Aegon to Doran through Arianne or any of the Snakes.
As for Serra, judging from an uncharacteristicly emotional Illyrio's regret over not being able to attend Young Griff's wedding, it is unlikely that she is still alive,
Conversation between Tyrion and Illyrio also strongly implies that she is actually dead and it also gives us her description,
Same as Ashara, Serra's looks are too distinctive and thus noticeable. Serra's painted likeness is consistent with common characteristics found in Lysene women.
As for Malora, I think it is a possibility but less likely than Wenda. Malora sounds similar to Lemore but it is not an anagram, e.g. Sarella/Alleras. But there is some indication on support this theory. House Hightower were a Targ loyalist. There is a also prophecy during the time of Aegon's Conquest that might compel the current members of House Hightower,
If Lemore is Malora, she might be sent to protect "The Dragon" instead of opposing him so that Hightower remains safe after Aegon lands in Westeros. Hightower lords are known to believe in magic and such so that it might be possible that they still hold this prophecy in high regards. House Hightower might be one of the friends in the Reach that Jon Con mentions,
Same as the case with Leyton, Malora is said to be locked in the Hightower. So it is possible that she is not in Hightower at all as there are no eyewitnesses that we know of.
During their travel, Tyrion notices stretchmarks on her stomach, implying that she has given birth,
Innocence despoiled, he thought … though Lemore was not near as innocent as she appeared. She had stretch marks on her belly that could only have come from childbirth.
So it is possible that she was pregnant or had given birth recently when Brotherhood was attacked by the Kingguard. Dayne being an honorable Kingsguard, might have spared her life as a reason. He might have sent her to the septas instead of taking her to Mad King's court where she would have almost certainly be executed. GRRM has told us to "keep reading" when someone asked him why Dayne quietly obeyed orders from the Mad King. Maybe Dayne was doing what he can to save others while working within his Kingsguard vows. That would have kept her in a debt to the Kingsguard. When the time came, she was called in by Jon Con (or some other loyalist) to repay that debt by nurturing Aegon. So just like Jon Con, even she might think Aegon is actually Aegon.
Another possibility is that she is associated with the Golden Company and knows that Aegon is a Blackfyre. Kingswood Brotherhood was led by Simon Toyne and Myles Toyne was a leader of Golden Company in the past. So maybe she fled to Essos to seek refuge with another Toyne because Simon was her baby's father.
Wenda would be of the right age to be Lemore and was said to be young and fair in a Jamie chapter in AFFC,
The White Fawn was young and fair, they say
That vile little bitch Wenda had burned a fawn into the cheek of his arse while she had him captive.
Sigil of House Cafferen is white fawn and that would explain her nickname too. Furthermore, House Cafferen was a Targ loyalist before they were defeated during Robert's Rebellion after which they fought for Robert. That would mean she was a member of a Targ loyalist family when she fled to Essos. That might have led her to raise the supposed heir to House Targ.
Other prominent theories include Ashara Dayne, Tyene's mother, Malora Hightower, Serra etc. I will gloss over them. Please post comments if you find something that i overlooked or if you don't agree. If she was Ashara, Tyrion was immediately noticed her distinctive eyes. He was attentive (and pervy) enough to notice her stretch marks. So why not her eyes?
Tyene was born of a septa as we find out in an Areo chapter in AFFC,
Lady Tyene's voice was gentle, and she looked as sweet as summer strawberries. Her mother had been a septa, and Tyene had an air of almost otherworldy innocence about her.
Arianne Martell had crossed the Mander once, when she had gone with three of the Sand Snakes to visit Tyene's mother.
As for Serra, judging from an uncharacteristicly emotional Illyrio's regret over not being able to attend Young Griff's wedding, it is unlikely that she is still alive,
"Good fortune," Illyrio called after them. "Tell the boy I am sorry that I will not be with him for his wedding. I will rejoin you in Westeros. That I swear, by my sweet Serra's hands."
"A maiden? I know the way of that." Illyrio thrust his right hand up his left sleeve and drew out a silver locket. Inside was a painted likeness of a woman with big blue eyes and pale golden hair streaked by silver. "Serra. I found her in a Lysene pillow house and brought her home to warm my bed, but in the end I wed her. Me, whose first wife had been a cousin of the Prince of Pentos. The palace gates were closed to me thereafter, but I did not care. The price was small enough, for Serra."
"How did she die?" Tyrion knew that she was dead; no man spoke so fondly of a woman who had abandoned him.
"How did she die?" Tyrion knew that she was dead; no man spoke so fondly of a woman who had abandoned him.
As for Malora, I think it is a possibility but less likely than Wenda. Malora sounds similar to Lemore but it is not an anagram, e.g. Sarella/Alleras. But there is some indication on support this theory. House Hightower were a Targ loyalist. There is a also prophecy during the time of Aegon's Conquest that might compel the current members of House Hightower,
"The realm is full of kings. For the Faith to exalt one above the rest we must be certain. Three hundred years ago, when Aegon the Dragon landed beneath this very hill, the High Septon locked himself within the Starry Sept of Oldtown and prayed for seven days and seven nights, taking no nourishment but bread and water. When he emerged he announced that the Faith would not oppose Aegon and his sisters, for the Crone had lifted up her lamp to show him what lay ahead. If Oldtown took up arms against the Dragon, Oldtown would burn, and the Hightower and the Citadel and the Starry Sept would be cast down and destroyed. Lord Hightower was a godly man. When he heard the prophecy, he kept his strength at home and opened the city gates to Aegon when he came. And His High Holiness anointed the Conqueror with the seven oils. I must do as he did, three hundred years ago. I must pray, and fast."
"Not yet. Let King's Landing think this is no more than an exile lord coming home with some hired swords to reclaim his birthright. An old familiar story, that. I will even write King Tommen, stating as much and asking for a pardon and the restoration of my lands and titles. That will give them something to chew over for a while. And whilst they dither, we will send out word secretly to likely friends in the stormlands and the Reach. And Dorne." That was the crucial step. Lesser lords might join their cause for fear of harm or hope of gain, but only the Prince of Dorne had the power to defy House Lannister and its allies. "Above all else, we must have Doran Martell."
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