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Post by daeronthegood on Jul 4, 2017 13:32:17 GMT -5
Hello everyone, first time poster, but I just wanted to say I love this forum! You guys are really funny and the lack of Dany hate, hell LOVE for Dany is so refreshing. I can understand people being annoyed with the Mereen quagmire, but the hate is just too much. The unfair double standards, the hope/fervent belief she will be evil and the new mad queen and now hope that she dies and Jon rides Drogon and takes the IT- is just wow I don't know.
I have a question about the dragonpit scene, does it make any sense to anyone? It would really suck if Dany is drawn into a stalemate with Cersei after coming in with such a huge force (land, sea and air). I hope its something more akin to Cersei is surrounded and threatens to blow up KL with Dany unwilling to risk so many lives.
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Post by lojzelote on Jul 4, 2017 13:37:57 GMT -5
tbh I kind of like that House Lannister's formal motto is kind of cheesy and garish though. but then their informal one is so much more sinister and intimidating. I like their informal motto as an informal motto, but as a formal one it wouldn't work imo. It would make them sound like bankers. The thing about Lannisters is that they are loud and boastful. The way they show off their wealth is short of vulgar. I can't picture Tywin's over-the-top battle gear without laughing: That's trying too hard, Tywin. LOL Are you Nouveau riche or what? So I think that Hear Me Roar actually makes sense. They want to be heard, they want to be seen, they are vain and proud, they are aggressive, they are overdoing it real bad. Unpopular opinion: I happen to quite like Growing Strong? It's not "badass" nor particularly inspired, but the words go well with the House's sigil and they suit the family well enough. Family, Duty, Honor is even less imaginative, and there's no pun on the sigil or anything. High as Honor is just... "OK, you think honor is great and that you are also great? Uh, OK." Ours Is the Fury and We Do Not Sow sound cool and they make sense for a warrior culture, but what they say is that their bearers are angry, like to beat people up, and honest, hard work is beneath them, so they steal stuff. I don't find that be anything to be particularly proud of. The only words I actually like are Winter Is Coming, Fire and Blood, and Unbent, Unbowed, Unbroken. Particularly Winter Is coming and Fire and Blood work in multiple ways. From the lesser houses, I'm very fond of Hightowers' We Light the Way. Their castle is a giant lighthouse, they take a great interest in learning of all kind (enlighment!), and they have connections to the Citadel and the Faith, which means they can influence maesters and septons all over the Seven Kingdoms (in theory at least), which means they can manipulate a lot of folks and indeed determine the way things will go. Pretty fitting words, all in all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 13:47:54 GMT -5
Hello everyone, first time poster, but I just wanted to say I love this forum! You guys are really funny and the lack of Dany hate, hell LOVE for Dany is so refreshing. I can understand people being annoyed with the Mereen quagmire, but the hate is just too much. The unfair double standards, the hope/fervent belief she will be evil and the new mad queen and now hope that she dies and Jon rides Drogon and takes the IT- is just wow I don't know. I have a question about the dragonpit scene, does it make any sense to anyone? It would really suck if Dany is drawn into a stalemate with Cersei after coming in with such a huge force (land, sea and air). I hope its something more akin to Cersei is surrounded and threatens to blow up KL with Dany unwilling to risk so many lives. I think it would suck it Dany just steamrolled Cersei and took the throne from her. Dany getting depowered and hitting setbacks keeps the tension. Re: the dragonpit, I think it is less to do with dany and cersei fighting to a stalemate, but dany realising she can't waste men on a war with cersei when the white walker threat is looming. Cersei on the other hand doesn't have many realistic options but to treat with them. Not that she actually listens. <3
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Post by sercreighton on Jul 4, 2017 13:52:55 GMT -5
Stark, Baratheon, Tully and Bolton (I know) have my favorite words. They're all just spokes on a wheel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 14:03:48 GMT -5
Stark, Baratheon, Tully and Bolton (I know) have my favorite words. They're all just spokes on a wheel. This one's on top and that one's on top and on and on it spins, crushing those on the ground
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 14:10:55 GMT -5
Hello everyone, first time poster, but I just wanted to say I love this forum! You guys are really funny and the lack of Dany hate, hell LOVE for Dany is so refreshing. I can understand people being annoyed with the Mereen quagmire, but the hate is just too much. The unfair double standards, the hope/fervent belief she will be evil and the new mad queen and now hope that she dies and Jon rides Drogon and takes the IT- is just wow I don't know. I have a question about the dragonpit scene, does it make any sense to anyone? It would really suck if Dany is drawn into a stalemate with Cersei after coming in with such a huge force (land, sea and air). I hope its something more akin to Cersei is surrounded and threatens to blow up KL with Dany unwilling to risk so many lives. Welcome to the forum. This place is fantastic and there is no madness. I felt like you did before being invited here. Out there it was as you said ... "just wow"... in the worst way. Daenerys forces are overwhelming at the moment and she could surely take KL... but the price? Cersei won't go down without a fight and the small folks would surely pay the highest price, I love that Daenerys takes pause and reconsider, it destroys all claims about her being interested in nothing but the IT, belief I never agreed with. Plus, there is the terrible threat of the NK looming in the North... it makes sense for her to cast aside her wishes in order to protect the realm. She is above all a rescuer as Tyrion says. Of course, trusting Cersei is an oversight, Jon should at least have doubts and Tyrion should know better. Hopefully Sansa will manage to open their eyes... at some point...maybe...Jaimie can only ride so fast.
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Post by Envie on Jul 4, 2017 17:02:17 GMT -5
Hello everyone, first time poster, but I just wanted to say I love this forum! You guys are really funny and the lack of Dany hate, hell LOVE for Dany is so refreshing. I can understand people being annoyed with the Mereen quagmire, but the hate is just too much. The unfair double standards, the hope/fervent belief she will be evil and the new mad queen and now hope that she dies and Jon rides Drogon and takes the IT- is just wow I don't know. I have a question about the dragonpit scene, does it make any sense to anyone? It would really suck if Dany is drawn into a stalemate with Cersei after coming in with such a huge force (land, sea and air). I hope its something more akin to Cersei is surrounded and threatens to blow up KL with Dany unwilling to risk so many lives. Welcome. Here you will find peace and safety from the madness and hate outside, much as Daenerys found peace in the house with the red door growing up - the only home she remembers. While there are plenty in our group who prefer other characters and this isn't a Daenerys only fan group, everyone is respectful of one another's opinions and of course intelligent enough to discuss those differences without being insulting or critical of one another. We have Stark fans and Lannister fans and much as the remaining characters from these houses are finding the necessity to band together against the coming storm on the show, we too are banding together against the storm outside that has left so many of the fans no better than mindless wights. The story is far greater than who sits the iron throne. Davos Seaworth has the greatest advice for us as we move into the winter of Season 7...
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Post by daeronthegood on Jul 4, 2017 17:55:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome everyone! This place is really cool. Besides Dany I still love Jon, Arya, Tyrion, Sansa and especially since season 6 Cersei (the attack on the sept was evil but soo satisfying). Honestly what really upset me in other forums that shall remain nameless-was the rank misogyny directed mostly at Dany and Sansa. It was really disturbing being confronted with that, not to mention grown people defending slavery as an acceptable cultural and moral practice. I was like ok I'm out, I can't read this filth anymore.
I am curious to see Sansa and Arya's opinion of Dany, I don't think they will meet this season, but to just hear what they think of her based on what they've heard. That also goes for all the other characters, Daenerys Targaryen invading Westeros must be big news once word gets out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 18:03:48 GMT -5
Well, by the time Jon and Arya see eachother again Dany & Jon will have been a thing for awhile so I'm guessing she's going to be pretty down with Daenerys. Not to mention Arya looking up to other great historical women like Nymeria and Visenya.
Sansa will probably be all for Dany for the simple fact that she's going to oppose Cersei.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jul 4, 2017 18:07:21 GMT -5
Well, by the time Jon and Arya see eachother again Dany & Jon will have been a thing for awhile so I'm guessing she's going to be pretty down with Daenerys. Not to mention Arya looking up to other great historical women like Nymeria and Visenya. Sansa will probably be all for Dany for the simple fact that she's going to oppose Cersei. i think Sansa would be a little wary of Dany simply because she's pretty world weary and initially distrustful of most people. I'm sure they would grow on each other and get along, but I could see Sansa being a bit apprehensive at first.
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Post by Singer of Death on Jul 4, 2017 18:10:03 GMT -5
When Cersei will found out about LF's death at the hands of Sansa, the Starks rise, and Sansa's possibly sending an army against her in the next season :
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Jul 4, 2017 19:46:17 GMT -5
"We Do Not Sow" for me. This words means "don't mess with our House" and I love it. Really badass. I must add my voice to all those saying that "Hear Me Roar" is a very lame motto, even when I'm a huge Cersei and Tyrion fan.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Jul 4, 2017 19:48:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome everyone! This place is really cool. Besides Dany I still love Jon, Arya, Tyrion, Sansa and especially since season 6 Cersei (the attack on the sept was evil but soo satisfying). Honestly what really upset me in other forums that shall remain nameless-was the rank misogyny directed mostly at Dany and Sansa. It was really disturbing being confronted with that, not to mention grown people defending slavery as an acceptable cultural and moral practice. I was like ok I'm out, I can't read this filth anymore. I am curious to see Sansa and Arya's opinion of Dany, I don't think they will meet this season, but to just hear what they think of her based on what they've heard. That also goes for all the other characters, Daenerys Targaryen invading Westeros must be big news once word gets out. Welcome here, my friend. And you will feel at home. There are plenty of Sansa and Dany fans here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 19:56:12 GMT -5
The Martell's have the best words imo. Being able to boast about not being conquered by the dragons is about as badass as it gets.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jul 4, 2017 20:00:35 GMT -5
Martells are the coolest, so are Baratheons and Bolton. Lannisters are kind of cheesy, but also kind of cool I think. I agree that their informal motto is much more sinister tho.
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