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Post by TheMadQueen on Jul 28, 2017 19:24:47 GMT -5
Hmmm he doesn't mention anything about Cersei having a scene where she miscarries.
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Post by belle on Jul 28, 2017 19:36:01 GMT -5
Hmmm he doesn't mention anything about Cersei having a scene where she miscarries. If she doesn't miscarry then Jaime killing a pregnant cersei in season 8 seems right up with the show's shock value
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Post by konradsmith on Jul 28, 2017 19:38:10 GMT -5
Hmmm he doesn't mention anything about Cersei having a scene where she miscarries. That's more likely an oversight on either Friki or the redditor who translated it's part than something that was cut.
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Post by moiaf on Jul 28, 2017 19:39:47 GMT -5
So, I'm staying away from most of the spoilers but because of what I blog about I couldn't stay away from this particular topic. Here is what I wrote about it. In the books Jon is heavily associated with his mother’s family, his looks, his upbringing, his values are those of his mother and her family. When Dany sees him in her HOTU vision she sees him as a blue flower (rose) something Lyanna is heavily associated with. On the other hand Dany is heavily associated with a Rhaegar in the books. Both Ser Jorah and Ser Barristan compare her to him. And twice during prophetic dreams Dany sees herself as Rhaegar, including a dream where she as Rhaegar fights in the Trident. I think, given the limited information we have, that the comparison between the two is actually a juxtaposition. The love that Rhaegar and Lyanna had for each other tore Westeros apart, it destroyed families and brought House Targaryen almost to extinction. Now you juxtapose that with Dany and Jon who are trying to bring Westeros together after all the war and devastation that has taken place. By joining together they are healing a rift made by their relatives. This fits into the larger narrative and parallels shared by Dany and Jon. Throughout the series they have been trying to correct the mistakes of their ancestors. The two of them coming together is the culmination of that narrative. This is when Ice and Fire merge to create a union. I've said it before, but that analysis is incredible. Thank you. Thank you! Friki's wrong about a few things here. Saying Tyrion goes into the Red Keep for instance. But then he often misses certain details and confuses some things. I don't think that disproves him though. Like him getting scene orders wrong and whatnot, that to me just confirms his stuff is secondhand, not that he's wrong or just piecing leaks together. Do you remember last year when he described episode 6x10? When describing the see where Davos confronts Mel he said that Jon does do anything to Mel. But of course we know that Jon exiles Mel. So, he does miss things. People are freaking out about this. And when I read the relevant exerpt I was like no. Occam's razor, saying something isn't going to happen pretty much guarantees it'll happen.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jul 28, 2017 19:40:55 GMT -5
Hmmm he doesn't mention anything about Cersei having a scene where she miscarries. If she doesn't miscarry then Jaime killing a pregnant cersei in season 8 seems right up with the show's shock value They wouldn't do that, I don't think. Hmmm he doesn't mention anything about Cersei having a scene where she miscarries. That's more likely an oversight on either Friki or the redditor who translated it's part than something that was cut. This is my convo with the translator guy. Friki does address it, but doesn't really say anything. Idk I'm confused lol. https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/6q7mn1/frikidoctors_season_7_episode_7_review_and_qa/dkv8i6v/
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Post by Lils on Jul 28, 2017 19:42:10 GMT -5
People are freaking out about this. And when I read the relevant exerpt I was like no. Occam's razor, saying something isn't going to happen pretty much guarantees it'll happen. I think so too. It wouldn't be brought up so often if it was going to be left as is. That's the other reason I think boatsex is happening. This would make two times this season she and Jon discuss that she can't have children. It's not the most subtle of foreshadowing.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Jul 28, 2017 19:42:34 GMT -5
Friki said last year that Septaggedon was Cersei's last scene, and specifically said we don't know her reaction to Tommen's death. And yet, we all know she does find his body, and THEN she's crowned Queen. So he does miss big things.
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Post by moiaf on Jul 28, 2017 19:44:15 GMT -5
People are freaking out about this. And when I read the relevant exerpt I was like no. Occam's razor, saying something isn't going to happen pretty much guarantees it'll happen. I think so too. It wouldn't be brought up so often if it was going to be left as is. That's the other reason I think boatsex is happening. This would make two times this season she and Jon discuss that she can't have children. It's not the most subtle of foreshadowing. No, they're pretty much banging you over the head with it. :lol Reminds me of last season's finale with their foreshadowing . Very heavy handed.
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Post by StarkL on Jul 28, 2017 19:46:25 GMT -5
People are freaking out about this. And when I read the relevant exerpt I was like no. Occam's razor, saying something isn't going to happen pretty much guarantees it'll happen. I think so too. It wouldn't be brought up so often if it was going to be left as is. That's the other reason I think boatsex is happening. This would make two times this season she and Jon discuss that she can't have children. It's not the most subtle of foreshadowing.Well, let's not forget about this scene
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Post by Lils on Jul 28, 2017 19:47:10 GMT -5
I think so too. It wouldn't be brought up so often if it was going to be left as is. That's the other reason I think boatsex is happening. This would make two times this season she and Jon discuss that she can't have children. It's not the most subtle of foreshadowing. No, they're pretty much banging you over the head with it. :lol Reminds me of last season's finale with their foreshadowing . Very heavy handed. Some people need it, apparently. There are some claiming that Jon is still Ned's child through incest. That was the other thing. The comment about marriage and then Jon is king. I don't know why they would have that if we were meant to be grossed out.
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Post by Lils on Jul 28, 2017 19:47:41 GMT -5
I think so too. It wouldn't be brought up so often if it was going to be left as is. That's the other reason I think boatsex is happening. This would make two times this season she and Jon discuss that she can't have children. It's not the most subtle of foreshadowing.Well, let's not forget about this scene LOOK! IT'S ROBERT + LYANNA = JON!
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Post by Lils on Jul 28, 2017 20:35:44 GMT -5
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 28, 2017 21:13:14 GMT -5
Well I'm happy that Bran is actually in LF's death scene. I wanted to see the 3 Starks together for this.
Jon also being Aegon is so silly. Why Grrm? Why?
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Jul 28, 2017 21:18:29 GMT -5
This sounds way better than the three way montage. The wall falling as the last scene of the season seems like a neat cliffhanger.
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Post by Lils on Jul 28, 2017 21:57:45 GMT -5
This sounds way better than the three way montage. The wall falling as the last scene of the season seems like a neat cliffhanger. The Wall falling should definitely be its own scene. It's such a pivotal and huge moment, it shouldn't be wrapped up with love scenes.
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