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Post by alcasinoroyale on Aug 18, 2016 16:36:59 GMT -5
And the part only shoots for a week so it can't be too huge of a new character. It would fit for a few brief flashbacks. But then, any guesses here are pretty big stabs in the dark. These casting calls are as vague as it gets. That week of filming part is definitely a good clue it can't be a major part. Good point. Wow, a Rhaegar/Lyanna flashback would be way more than I expected! It would be a lot easier if they put "silver-haired prince" in the casting calls, but that would have been too obvious haha. It would be cool to see a Rhaegar/Lyanna flashback in the same episode where Jon learns his parentage and then hopefully visiting Lyanna's tomb in the crypts.
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Post by Envie on Aug 18, 2016 16:41:03 GMT -5
That week of filming part is definitely a good clue it can't be a major part. Good point. Wow, a Rhaegar/Lyanna flashback would be way more than I expected! It would be a lot easier if they put "silver-haired prince" in the casting calls, but that would have been too obvious haha. It would be cool to see a Rhaegar/Lyanna flashback in the same episode where Jon learns his parentage and then hopefully visiting Lyanna's tomb in the crypts. Yeah, that would be amazing and builds upon the already cool parallel they did this past season by holding off the final reveal of TOJ until just before that moment Jon's named King in the North. That was a goosebump moment for sure and the only thing I could imagine topping that would be the moment Jon finds out who he really is as part of the ongoing story. Perhaps he finds out just as Daenerys decides to pay a visit ... :flamebreathing: "Here's your new mount Jon, he's named after your Dad... "
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 18, 2016 16:41:04 GMT -5
And the part only shoots for a week so it can't be too huge of a new character. It would fit for a few brief flashbacks. But then, any guesses here are pretty big stabs in the dark. These casting calls are as vague as it gets. That week of filming part is definitely a good clue it can't be a major part. Good point. Wow, a Rhaegar/Lyanna flashback would be way more than I expected! If there's only one scene of them together I think it would be most important to see them getting married (that is, if they did) so Bran could tell Jon he's not a bastard.
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 18, 2016 16:41:53 GMT -5
That week of filming part is definitely a good clue it can't be a major part. Good point. Wow, a Rhaegar/Lyanna flashback would be way more than I expected! It would be a lot easier if they put "silver-haired prince" in the casting calls, His hair will likely be a wig though anyways if he's in. They'll probably just cast someone brown-haired like they did for Dany and Viserys.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Aug 18, 2016 16:50:17 GMT -5
It would be a lot easier if they put "silver-haired prince" in the casting calls, His hair will likely be a wig though anyways if he's in. They'll probably just cast someone brown-haired like they did for Dany and Viserys. Yeah I know, but I meant the character description. It's pretty much as vague as "aristocratic man" like you said.
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Post by mandzipop on Aug 18, 2016 16:56:43 GMT -5
I never thought that they would cast Rhaegar until I saw s06e10. Then I realised that it was highly likely. If Rhaegar never shows up, there will feel like there is a piece of the story missing to the audience. It works fine in the books, but I can't see him being missing from view working in the show. I really want to Rhaegar and Lyanna get married.
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 18, 2016 16:58:19 GMT -5
I wouldn't rule out the City Guard, the Courtesan and the Merchant being in Oldtown btw unlike KL and Essos as the WOTW article implied. The City Guard sounds KL in a sense but it's as likely that a guard catches someone (maybe Jaqen or someone to do with Euron) trying to infiltrate Oldtown in s7 as it is a Goldcloak catches someone sneaking into KL (Arya or Vars?). Plus no Goldcloak characters so far have spoken in RP, they've mostly had lower-class Southern accents when they get dialogue. Though I guess this one could just be an officer or someone. But I wouldn't say he's confirmed as being a KL part.
As well just because the Courtesan and Merchant parts don't specify that they're white, it's very possible since Oldtown's a huge port that they'd have both foreign merchants in their markets and foreign girls in their brothels.
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Post by moiaf on Aug 18, 2016 17:04:55 GMT -5
I wouldn't rule out the City Guard, the Courtesan and the Merchant being in Oldtown btw unlike KL and Essos as the WOTW article implied. The City Guard sounds KL in a sense but it's as likely that a guard catches someone (maybe Jaqen or someone to do with Euron) trying to infiltrate Oldtown in s7 as it is a Goldcloak catches someone sneaking into KL (Arya or Vars?). Plus no Goldcloak characters so far have spoken in RP, they've mostly had lower-class Southern accents when they get dialogue. Though I guess this one could just be an officer or someone. But I wouldn't say he's confirmed as being a KL part. As well just because the Courtesan and Merchant parts don't specify that they're white, it's very possible since Oldtown's a huge port that they'd have both foreign merchants in their markets and foreign girls in their brothels. Maybe he catches Jorah trying to sneak in and find a Maester to help cure his greyscale.
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 18, 2016 17:06:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't rule out the City Guard, the Courtesan and the Merchant being in Oldtown btw unlike KL and Essos as the WOTW article implied. The City Guard sounds KL in a sense but it's as likely that a guard catches someone (maybe Jaqen or someone to do with Euron) trying to infiltrate Oldtown in s7 as it is a Goldcloak catches someone sneaking into KL (Arya or Vars?). Plus no Goldcloak characters so far have spoken in RP, they've mostly had lower-class Southern accents when they get dialogue. Though I guess this one could just be an officer or someone. But I wouldn't say he's confirmed as being a KL part. As well just because the Courtesan and Merchant parts don't specify that they're white, it's very possible since Oldtown's a huge port that they'd have both foreign merchants in their markets and foreign girls in their brothels. Maybe he catches Jorah trying to sneak in and find a Maester to help cure his greyscale. Could be. Though I think Jorah would just get in via ship. Though come to think of it so would Jaqen or anyone else who needed to show up. In this way I guess KL makes a bit more sense since it'll be in more of a lockdown mode.
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Post by moiaf on Aug 18, 2016 17:07:51 GMT -5
That week of filming part is definitely a good clue it can't be a major part. Good point. Wow, a Rhaegar/Lyanna flashback would be way more than I expected! If there's only one scene of them together I think it would be most important to see them getting married (that is, if they did) so Bran could tell Jon he's not a bastard. Having Rhaegar and Lyanna married doesn't really make Jon legitimate as Rhaegar was already married and polygamy is almost certainly illegal in Westeros. I could see Bran thinking that and telling Jon, but Jon would know the truth of the law and how people would view him.
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Post by moiaf on Aug 18, 2016 17:09:21 GMT -5
Maybe he catches Jorah trying to sneak in and find a Maester to help cure his greyscale. Could be. Though I think Jorah would just get in via ship. Though come to think of it so would Jaqen or anyone else who needed to show up. In this way I guess KL makes a bit more sense since it'll be in more of a lockdown mode. Well, if it's King's Landing than I'm not sure it would be Jorah who is sneaking into the city. It could be that if it is indeed KL, then perhaps Dany and Tyrion send a spy into the city to try to gauge the situation.
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 18, 2016 18:33:30 GMT -5
If there's only one scene of them together I think it would be most important to see them getting married (that is, if they did) so Bran could tell Jon he's not a bastard. Having Rhaegar and Lyanna married doesn't really make Jon legitimate as Rhaegar was already married and polygamy is almost certainly illegal in Westeros. I could see Bran thinking that and telling Jon, but Jon would know the truth of the law and how people would view him. I think it would be under the Old Gods that they married. Probably on the Isle of Faces by the Green Men. And I think exceptions were made for Targaryens by the Faith a time or two historically. But I'm not one to care about who's the rightful this or that. Because the series shown that who's on the IT doesn't really correlate with that all-too often anyways. He'd only get it if Dany died or gave it up in the end regardless of what his claim actually might be.
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 18, 2016 18:39:39 GMT -5
Speaking of which if I'm right that the Priest character is indeed whoever married them (since he shoots in the same week as the Young Lord) then maybe he's one of the Green Men himself.
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Post by moiaf on Aug 18, 2016 19:15:06 GMT -5
Having Rhaegar and Lyanna married doesn't really make Jon legitimate as Rhaegar was already married and polygamy is almost certainly illegal in Westeros. I could see Bran thinking that and telling Jon, but Jon would know the truth of the law and how people would view him. I think it would be under the Old Gods that they married. Probably on the Isle of Faces by the Green Men. And I think exceptions were made for Targaryens by the Faith a time or two historically. But I'm not one to care about who's the rightful this or that. Because the series shown that who's on the IT doesn't really correlate with that all-too often anyways. He'd only get it if Dany died or gave it up in the end regardless of what his claim actually might be. No exceptions were really made for the Targaryens. There were only two Targaryen Kings who were had polygamous marriages Aegon and his son Maegor. Aegon conquered Westeros and the country was reeling after that. When Maegor did it it was the rise of the Faith Millitant and it sent Westeros into civil war. The only reason Margar and Aegon were able to enforce their multiple marriages was because they were kings and had dragons. After Maegar died and Jaeherys took over a Universal set of Laws was establish for all seven kingdoms and we never saw polygamy again. I'm not saying that a ceremony couldn't have taken place, it most likely did, however, that does not make it legal. Rhea had was neither a king nor did he have dragons to enforce such a marriage. Additonally, I'm pretty sure they Old Gods or those who follow them don't believe in polygamy. And I wasn't saying that because of who is the rightful ruler, I was saying it because I think Jon being a bastard is an important story-long struggle for him when it comes to his identity. Even if he was a bastard he found pried in being Ned' Stark's bastard but now he's not even that. Bran might tell Jon about the marriage ceremony Rhaegar and Lyanna but I doubt Jon would find any solace in that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 19:21:29 GMT -5
If there's only one scene of them together I think it would be most important to see them getting married (that is, if they did) so Bran could tell Jon he's not a bastard. Having Rhaegar and Lyanna married doesn't really make Jon legitimate as Rhaegar was already married and polygamy is almost certainly illegal in Westeros. I could see Bran thinking that and telling Jon, but Jon would know the truth of the law and how people would view him. Agreed. We've already seen it doesn't really matter anyway. Jon being named KitN over Sansa proved that.
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