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Post by TheArchmaester on Mar 13, 2019 13:58:24 GMT -5
This is the last time we'll ever get to theorize like this, so feel free to bring the crazy. I'll start with an oldie but goodie: -The voice Varys heard in the fire was Bran's. -Bran drove the Mad King Mad. He was staring into that fire a bit too intently all through season 7
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Post by moiaf on Mar 14, 2019 10:02:53 GMT -5
I need to organize all my prediction and theories, I have so many.
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Post by TheArchmaester on Mar 14, 2019 12:35:35 GMT -5
I need to organize all my prediction and theories, I have so many. Yeah, countless theories over the years. I imagine the smaller/more specific theories won't be touched by the show, but the BIG ones should be confirmed true or untrue this season...
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Post by belle on Mar 14, 2019 12:46:10 GMT -5
-Theon will kill Euron -Jaime and Cersei will both die. Jaime will kill Cersei and then die himself not long after -there will be no iron throne at the end -Jon/Dany will marry and have at least 1 child
I have some other thoughts too but these are the main ones.
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Post by Envie on Mar 15, 2019 8:01:44 GMT -5
- Sam survives to write the book: "A Song of Ice and Fire" which makes him young GRRM. My most favorite ASOIAF theory already came true (R+L=J) and I have never really been able to figure out what all the Azor Ahai / Prince who was promised stuff really is all about so it's tough for me to make great predictions. At this point, everyone in the general audience probably thinks it has to be Jon Snow since the focus has been on him since the big R+L=J and his legitimacy reveal. But that's when I start to doubt because GRRM's clues have rarely ever been straightforward like that. So I just can't make any predictions at this point for who is the Neo in this story!
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-Cersei redeems herself somehow, but it’s a little too late for NK invasion. -Daenerys and Jon have a baby daughter. -The NK and the ice dragon will conquer KL until Daenerys and Jon wins the battle but loses their lives. -Ghost dies in 803, though he survives the novels if they ever come out. -Davos is named Lord Protector until Targaryen’s heir is of age -Gendry is legitimized
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Post by Envie on Apr 7, 2019 22:38:53 GMT -5
Hey hey, here we are 1 week ahead of the Season 8 premiere and I've just finished my Season 7 re-watch this weekend. I took a lot of notes of little details from Season 7 that I felt were good clues of things to come in Season 8 since I believe Season 7 was intended as the 'table-setting' season for the finale of the story. So from my notes and a lot of thinking, here are my 'Top Ten' predictions for Season 8! 1. Jaime calls the Lannister banners - In Season 7, after the epic Dragonpit summit where Cersei promised to call their banners (and lied), Jaime is meeting with his army commanders in the map room. (This guy: gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Lannister_General) Here, we hear him tell his lead general: "We don't have a fortnight. If the North falls, we fall. Three days. The remaining forces in the Westerlands will take the River Road east, we'll meet at Lord Harroway's Town and march together to Winterfell."Harroway's Town in mid-center of the map east of Riverrun. This is a great place for Jaime to go after a short stop at Riverrun to have a meeting with (I hope) Lord Edmure and to gather his forces. His General will execute his orders despite Cersei's intent to lie (or perhaps she lets them go?) and decides if they survive it all, she will claim she intended to send the forces anyway as originally promised. These forces will likely make it to Winterfell just ahead of the Army of the Dead. 2. Jorah Dies a hero at Winterfell - After reuniting with his House, and Lady Lyanna Mormont forgiving his original crimes, Jorah regains renewed strength and determination to serve his Queen, and the North again (He always dreamt of going home), Jorah will die in the battle of Winterfell in a heroic way by somehow sacrificing himself so Daenerys can escape. I feel strongly about this one from the fact that Jorah was eager to go north first, before Jon even volunteered, to capture a wight and bring it back in Season 7. He has been looking for a way to redeem himself with the Northerners he betrayed long ago and to also return home. He's cured of grayscale so that he can reunite with Daenerys, reunite with his home in the north, and die a hero instead of a disease-ridden failure. In this way he will have also redeemed himself of his betrayal to Daenerys in Essos. Jorah also said he hoped to see Sam again, and I think it might be Sam who is with him and tries to save him of a mortal wound during the battle. I also think Sam gives Jorah 'Heartsbane' to use during the battle after learning Jorah insisted Jon keep Longclaw. 3. Gendry is legitimized as Lord Baratheon - I think this could happen even before the great battle at Winterfell. An obvious outcome for Gendry, but perhaps not the timing. Jon will want to acknowledge Gendry for saving them by reaching the wall and sending for Daenerys back in Season 7. I think Tormund will still have his hammer to present to him as a new Lord. I also think Gendry will make it a point to call Arya "My Lady" again and now, as equals, perhaps flirt with her a bit. If they don't legitimize him before the battle of Winterfell, then surely just afterwards for all his service in smithing weapons out of dragonglass, which I think he will figure out a way to make it stronger and better in the forges. 4. The Valyrian Steel Dagger - It's a key clue to the ending. This might even be something The Night King is after. It's more important than anyone realizes, except Bran, who gave it to Arya and seems to know something deeper about it. Back in Season 7, when Littlefinger gave the dagger to him, Bran asked: "Do you know who this belonged to?" I don't think he wasn't referring to the assassin, or Littlefinger, or Tyrion, or Robert Baratheon. He was referring to who it belonged to long before them. It could have been Rhaegar's or even further back in the Targaryen family tree. It's a very ornate 'ceremonial' type dagger - made of dragonbone in the hilt and a red ruby. These were indeed very precious things to use as ornaments for a dagger. It was featured on a page in the book Sam was reading where he discovered the dragonglass buried beneath Dragonstone. I think when Sam sees the dagger with Arya, he's going to go back to that book and look that up again and we will get another clue as to it's importance. I also think it's entirely possible this dagger was a sacrificial dagger and holds a key clue to how the The Night King can ultimately be defeated. Not sure on the details there but I have a strong feeling, after they pointed out the dagger many times in Season 7, it's important. It was referenced in the book Sam read, it was a pivotal moment between Bran, Arya and Sansa, Brienne comments on it and Arya spars with it, and finally it becomes the executioner weapon for Littlefinger after being singled out as a key piece of evidence in his 'trial' and death. They've made a point of making it a focal point enough times now, I think it's important for some future event in the finale. 5. Bran & Little Sam - We're going to find out at the Battle of Winterfell whether or not it matters to The Night King that one of Craster's sons escaped the sacrifice. I think Bran and Sam are also going to talk about Little Sam and Craster's sons. Bran may do a vision-walk to find out why this sacrificing started and why it mattered, or if it matters now and is a clue to what, or who, the Night King is after. I think it's possible the white walkers try to get to Little Sam again, just as they did when Gilly and Sam were taking shelter in that hut north of the wall and Sam killed one with dragonglass. I think Sam and Bran are going to be in the library a lot together in the first couple of episodes. They have a lot to talk about and research with all of the materials Sam stole from The Citadel. Sam and Gilly will probably help Bran narrow down his visions to specific events in the past that would help uncover clues necessary to defeating the white walkers. The topic of Craster and Little Sam will undoubtedly come up too. 6. Tyrion, Cersei and a mystery agreement - When Tyrion realized Cersei not only wasn't going to have him killed when he met with her privately in Season 7, but also is pregnant - Tyrion may have struck some sort of bargain we did not see on-screen. Why else wouldn't they have shown whatever it was after that which convinced Cersei to return to the Dragonpit and reconsider not only the truce but to call her banners? Something Tyrion said to her after he discovered her pregnancy is what convinced her... and that, whatever it was, could possibly end up being a betrayal by Tyrion to Daenerys. Let's face it, Daenerys and Tyrion have had a lot of tension, particularly in Season 7 which was a table-setting season. It could have been nothing, much like the drama between Sansa and Arya, but in my re-watch, it struck me as important how often Daenerys got angry at Tyrion and accused him of siding/favoring his family over her. I believe this may come back around in the end when we find out what sort of 'deal' Tyrion made with Cersei... especially if Jaime actually does call their banners (as I listed in #1 above) because now she won't have gone back on her word like she told Jaime she was going to do. Lets not forget that Cersei threatened to have the Mountain kill both Jaime and Tyrion in Season 7 on their separate confrontations with her and in both cases she didn't do it. This shows that Cersei loves *both* of her brothers in different, twisted ways and she needs them. It's likely she was trying to play one against the other to find out which is most loyal to their Lannister name in the end. This is probably going to matter especially if Jaime is the one who ends up killing Cersei. 7. "Death By Fire is the Purest Death" - Melisandre will return from Volantis, possibly with other Red Priests and will play some part in what goes down in King's Landing. I believe she will likely die by fire - either dragon or wildfire, but will first help Jon and Daenerys one last time. I do not know the details of this but after her huge foreshadowing scene with Varys, I have to suspect those two end up working together before both dying in the fires of King's Landing. 8. "You Will Fly" - This one is for Bran. He's already flown with ravens he's warged, that's true, but it seems a bit anticlimactic if that's all the Three-Eyed Raven meant by that line so long ago. I think it's very possible, after re-watching Season 7 and seeing The Night King turn Viserion, that Bran will eventually warg into Viserion to avert a disaster and possibly keeping The Night King from destroying Winterfell entirely or during a battle between Drogon, Rhaegal and Viserion. I also have a strong feeling this is one of the primary reasons The Night King is so keen on taking out Bran and has physically connected with him in his visions. Bran is as powerful, or moreso than The Night King himself, which makes him a bigger threat than all of the armies south of the wall. The Night King is going to Winterfell to get Bran, but Bran outsmarts him (possibly by warging Viserion) and gets away with Jon and Daenerys. They fly south, and now the Night King is heading south too after the battle at Winterfell. 9. Cersei shuts down King's Landing - I think, once Cersei realizes the undead army is bearing down on King's Landing and hears that Winterfell was destroyed, she will have the gates barred and everyone inside trapped. The Golden Company may play some part in this, and I suspect rioting in the streets (there's no food left) may also happen. This will probably lead up to the battle at King's Landing in some massive way depending on some factors like The Golden Company, Euron and his fleet, Jon and Daenerys, and of course The Night King. I am not going to predict she definitely uses the wildfire at this point, because after careful consideration, it seems likely she's stopped (by Jaime) before she gets to that point, which is a far more symbolic reference to "The Mad King" as she becomes The Mad Queen in the end. Brienne probably dies in King's Landing trying to save Jaime too. Seeing the city go up in wildfire would be amazing and shocking, but I don't think that's what happens as much as I used to think it. Jon and Tyrion, and Jaime, etc. have all pointed out, in Season 7, the significance of King's Landing having a million people or more in it. I think it's more likely The Night King aims for King's Landing to replenish his army and that's where it all goes down with him. With or without Wildfire. I'm 50/50 on that. 10. No one gets the Iron Throne - No, I don't mean Arya, or Jaqen, or any other "No One." Literally, no one will sit the iron throne in the end. Cersei will likely die trying to set off the wildfire and Jaime will kill her, just as he did The Mad King before her, bringing his story full circle before he dies himself. Jon, if he survives, won't want to rule The Iron Throne, despite his reveal as Aegon Targaryen. Jon's far more Stark and Northerner than he is Targaryen Ruler. He doesn't understand the politics of ruling any more than Ned Stark did and will want to stay in the north if he survives it all. I think it's possible he goes back north after thinking Daenerys has died in the battle at King's Landing. IF she didn't die, she will return to him there and they will start a new era together rebuilding Winterfell and helping new Lords recover their own lands (ie. Sam Tarly, Gendry Baratheon, Bronn (haha), Robin Arryn). I doubt there will be 7 Kingdoms anymore either, though I don't see how a single Monarchy would work either, or who would rule it. That's the end of where I can predict anything and look forward to seeing whatever twists they throw at us for the finale! Oh and some other side notes: - Nymeria and her wolf pack will show up at Winterfell and help at some point. - Sandor Clegane will survive the battle of Winterfell and head south with the rest, because Cleganebowl. - Arya will eventually set off on an adventure to see what's West of Westeros - Beric and Tormund (and probably Ghost too) will probably also die at Winterfell helping others escape. - Foreshadowing for Daenerys being pregnant is strong, so that's pretty much a given, but I can't even begin to guess what happens with that... that's where I'm going to stop predicting now!
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Post by moiaf on Apr 8, 2019 7:41:34 GMT -5
Okay, I probably should get started with this. 1. Dany and Jon will survive and I'm starting to get the inkling that after they help set up a new form of government in Westeros, they might decide to peace out with their baby (I'm hoping for a girl). 2. There's going to be a real fracturing of relationships between the main characters. Interviews by both Maisie Williams and John Bradly have given me the impression that Jon's relationship with Arya and Sam will not be what it once was. I think that Arya might side with Sansa over the Cersei affair and this will come at a really bad time for Jon when he's feeling attacked by all sides, he might even see this as a betrayal on Arya's part. As for Sam, Bradly said that he has manipulated Jon in the past, I think Sam might try to do the same this time but it'll backfire and it'll create a rift between Jon and Sam. I think this is part of the bittersweet ending GRRM has been talking about. It's not just death and destruction it's the erosion of relationships and the inability to go back to how things used to be. So, while Jon may forgive Sam and get over Arya siding with Sansa, their relationships will never be the same. 3. Going off my no. 2 predictions I think that the behavior of the people of Winterfell towards Jon and Dany will only serve to drive Jon and Dany closer together and drive a wedge between them and everyone else. It'll be Jon and Dany vs. the world. 4. Someone recently posted an interview where GRRM talked about how he didn't like the whole "good guys vs bad guys" or "the good guys coming together to defeat the bad guys". Given Sansa's demeanor when receiving Dany in the promo I think the Lords in the north and the Starks (sans Bran) still won't understand the real threat and will be too focused on the game of thrones. This is why Winterfell will fall. After that, I still think that some people will be too focused on their own needs, the only ones seeing the big picture will be Jon and Dany. They'll get the support of those closest to them but the damage to their relationships has already been done. 5. All the Lannisters are going to die. Tyrion is going to betray Dany as Envie mentioned he made some sort of deal with Cersei. There were also strong hints in S7 that he would betray Dany. The thing is, that literally, everyone who has ever betrayed Dany is dead, except for Jorah who she forgave. This does not bode well for Tyrion or Cersei. Also, Tyrion inherited Tywin's soundtrack theme when he killed him, do you know what Tywin's theme was based on? The Rains of Catamere. 6. Again, going off of what Envie said about the dagger, I also think it's very important. Its prominence in S7 can't be underestimated. I keep thinking that the dagger must be used to remove the dragonglass shard from the NK heart. ETA from the books Cersei V, AFFC: "No, Your Grace. At the end a dragon hatches from an egg and devours all of the lions."7. Dany will light one more fire and I think this one is tied to the birth of her child and perhaps to the death of the NK. 8. I think the NK might be after Jon and Dany's baby. He's had multiple opportunities to kill Jon and an opportunity to kill Dany and he killed neither. We also have the mystery of why Craster sacrificed his sons and why the NK needed those sacrifices. I think we'll finally have an answer to both these things. 9. I don't think Jon is going to kill the NK, at least not in a sword fight. If GRRM is going to nix the fantasy trope of all the good guys coming together to defeat the evil monster, he'll nix the other big fantasy trope of the hero defeating the monster in a sword fight. However, this is happening it's going to be more complicated than that. Hense, the dagger. 10. All the dragons are going to die but there might be dragon eggs left behind. This is it, for now, I might add more to this later.
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Post by nikma on Apr 8, 2019 8:05:03 GMT -5
Characters that wil die - Edd, Theon, Tyrion, Cersei, Jaime, Euron, Gregor, Sandor, Qyburn, Harry Strickland, Missandei, Gilly, Tormund, Jorah, Beric, dragons and direwolves.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Apr 8, 2019 8:11:17 GMT -5
Hmmmm
1. Jon and Dany still get married- I'm sure they'll probably be a little icky about the fact that it's incest, but I think they'll get married anyway.
2. Melisandre- I think she'll come back with some warriors from Volantis and some magic, and will help fight the Night King. She foretold her own death, so maybe she'll fall in battle, or Davos will make good on his promise to kill her. Either way, she'll do something heroic and then die. She's a goner.
3. The Night King wants something- I know the actor talked about this, so it's not really an original prediction. But I think the messages he's leaving and shit like that...he wants something. Or somebody. Who/What exactly that is...idk. Bran, maybe?
4. Cersei and Euron tension- Cersei wants loyalty, Euron wants the throne and marriage. I think their lust/hate relationship is only going to escalate. There's clearly attraction there (at least on Euron's part) but they're both using each other. So it's a weird little dynamic. I don't think it will end well. My prediction is Euron tries to force Cersei into a wedding, and she'll kill him somehow.
5. Varys dies. Again, less of a prediction cause the show already foretold it, but I guess Varys is a goner. I'm not sure if he dies in relation to the Night King storyline or the Cersei storyline. I would guess the latter, since he's always been about the politics and the throne, so I guess it would be fitting that that's how he dies.
6. Jaime survives. Idk why, but I feel like he survives. The books foreshadowed him outliving Cersei and marrying Brienne. Might be a little fairy tale- esque, but that'd be nice, I guess. I don't see him dying.
7. Cersei dies. Duh.
8. Dany is the Younger More Beautiful Queen. Again, duh.
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Post by Envie on Apr 8, 2019 8:41:36 GMT -5
6. Again, going off of what Envie said about the dagger, I also think it's very important. Its prominence in S7 can't be underestimated. I keep thinking that the dagger must be used to remove the dragonglass shard from the NK heart. I sort of wanted to expand my prediction for the dagger in this same direction but I'm just too uncertain on what sort of 'sacrifice' it should be used for yet. Whether that's killing the Night King, removing the dragonglass from his heart (which btw is also what they did to Benjen as additional clue), or killing someone else to satisfy some sort of pact, I just don't know! All I know with a strong feeling of certainty is that after seeing how often it was a focus item in Season 7, it's going to be something of importance to the ending. Because Arya has been trained with the Faceless Men, and they worship the God of Death (a life is owed, life for death etc), I think she is a good candidate for having the dagger and understanding how to use it, but I'm still hesitate to say she's the one to kill The Night King. Like you, I think it's entirely possible it's not a main "Hero" figure like Jon or Daenerys because as you said, GRRM wanted to avoid those cliche' type plots.
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Post by moiaf on Apr 8, 2019 12:00:00 GMT -5
6. Again, going off of what Envie said about the dagger, I also think it's very important. Its prominence in S7 can't be underestimated. I keep thinking that the dagger must be used to remove the dragonglass shard from the NK heart. I sort of wanted to expand my prediction for the dagger in this same direction but I'm just too uncertain on what sort of 'sacrifice' it should be used for yet. Whether that's killing the Night King, removing the dragonglass from his heart (which btw is also what they did to Benjen as additional clue), or killing someone else to satisfy some sort of pact, I just don't know! All I know with a strong feeling of certainty is that after seeing how often it was a focus item in Season 7, it's going to be something of importance to the ending. Because Arya has been trained with the Faceless Men, and they worship the God of Death (a life is owed, life for death etc), I think she is a good candidate for having the dagger and understanding how to use it, but I'm still hesitate to say she's the one to kill The Night King. Like you, I think it's entirely possible it's not a main "Hero" figure like Jon or Daenerys because as you said, GRRM wanted to avoid those cliche' type plots. So in the books, Dany inadvertently chooses her dragons over her child twice and I've always believed that she will knowingly choose her child over her dragons in the end. It could be that her final sacrifice and part of the sacrifice needed to destroy the NK will be for Dany to sacrifice Drogon. ETA: EnvieGoing back to the dagger, I also think that it was given to Arya for a reason. It's always struck me as odd that she would be allowed to leave the Faceless Men, now that just might be a thread that D&D let go off but her training with the FM has to be more important than just for her to seek revenge. All the connection with the Gods of Death, and the NK being the incarnation of Death, there has to be a connection there. This makes me think that killing the NK will not be a one on one battle and might be a collective action of a few characters working in sync with each other. So everyone will have a part to play, including Arya and her dagger.
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Post by daeronthegood on Apr 8, 2019 12:08:15 GMT -5
Characters that wil die - Edd, Theon, Tyrion, Cersei, Jaime, Euron, Gregor, Sandor, Qyburn, Harry Strickland, Missandei, Gilly, Tormund, Jorah, Beric, dragons and direwolves. Ya'll need to leave Missandei and Gilly ALONE!!!!!!!! I am not accepting any ending where they die.
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Post by daeronthegood on Apr 8, 2019 12:10:27 GMT -5
I sort of wanted to expand my prediction for the dagger in this same direction but I'm just too uncertain on what sort of 'sacrifice' it should be used for yet. Whether that's killing the Night King, removing the dragonglass from his heart (which btw is also what they did to Benjen as additional clue), or killing someone else to satisfy some sort of pact, I just don't know! All I know with a strong feeling of certainty is that after seeing how often it was a focus item in Season 7, it's going to be something of importance to the ending. Because Arya has been trained with the Faceless Men, and they worship the God of Death (a life is owed, life for death etc), I think she is a good candidate for having the dagger and understanding how to use it, but I'm still hesitate to say she's the one to kill The Night King. Like you, I think it's entirely possible it's not a main "Hero" figure like Jon or Daenerys because as you said, GRRM wanted to avoid those cliche' type plots. So in the books, Dany inadvertently chooses her dragons over her child twice and I've always believed that she will knowingly choose her child over her dragons in the end. It could be that her final sacrifice and part of the sacrifice needed to destroy the NK will be for Dany to sacrifice Drogon. I am going to be a mess if/when Drogon bites it. The other two were always supporting players to the main star.
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Post by Envie on Apr 8, 2019 15:48:41 GMT -5
Going back to the dagger, I also think that it was given to Arya for a reason. It's always struck me as odd that she would be allowed to leave the Faceless Men, now that just might be a thread that D&D let go off but her training with the FM has to be more important than just for her to seek revenge. All the connection with the Gods of Death, and the NK being the incarnation of Death, there has to be a connection there. This makes me think that killing the NK will not be a one on one battle and might be a collective action of a few characters working in sync with each other. So everyone will have a part to play, including Arya and her dagger. I completely agree with you that Arya's story arc has to have more to it than simple revenge. She's learned a form of magic with The Faceless Men and I would not be surprised at all if that magic ends up having something to do with how the Night King is defeated. Also worth noting since we're on the topic of Arya and I didn't have section for her in my predictions - I think Arya WILL go to King's Landing for the big ending. Melisandre told her they would meet again, and I don't really see Mel going back north (she will keep to the exile she was given by Jon) so Arya coming to King's Landing will enable her to meet Melisandre again and this time on much different terms. I hope it's really awesome.
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