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Post by nikma on Apr 17, 2019 5:58:51 GMT -5
Reintoduction of that Lannister crossbow feels like reintroduction of LF's dagger last season. Someone will be killed with it.
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Post by Envie on Apr 17, 2019 6:58:54 GMT -5
Reintoduction of that Lannister crossbow feels like reintroduction of LF's dagger last season. Someone will be killed with it. If this crossbow is somehow parallel to the dagger, then maybe Bronn shoots Qyburn with it to prevent Qyburn doing something in the ending since Qyburn gave it to him. Qyburn is willing to do just about anything Cersei asks him to do at this point so I consider him fairly dangerous in the background of any scene in King's Landing.
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Post by TheArchmaester on Apr 19, 2019 23:07:36 GMT -5
Great writeup TheArchmaester ! Absolutely loved all your predictions! I've never been too crazy about the Jon/Dany's baby as sacrifice theory, but pairing that with Little Sam as "The Prince Who Was (Literally) Promised" (and was denied by Sam/Gilly escaping with him) -- I could see it actually being a thing. I wanted to address one of your points because I really liked your take on it: 12) The Iron Throne will be destroyed, but the series won't end in democracy, or in a constitutional monarchy or anything like that. Type of government will be a non-issue. But Westeros will usher in a new human age, free of the chains of slavery, no longer subservient to nature, magic and superstition. That said, all the surviving characters will have been humbled in a major way, so it won't be the out-of-control arrogant humanity of earlier seasons. I think this is what I've been trying to summarize for a while now, but unable to articulate into a final 'theme' or overall story-arc that made sense because of how opposing the political and mystical elements of the story have always been. On one hand, there's always been the "Game of Thrones" political side, which is grounded in brutal humanity with all of the base desires, betrayals and consequences. And on the other hand, there are the mystical/magical elements of the story that didn't necessarily match up with the human story other than to inject a fantasy element and a 'great evil' that has to be destroyed in the end, like Sauron in LotR. But I think GRRM is more clever than that and so like you said, the magical elements (Dragons, White Walkers, Resurrections, warging, etc) has to mean something more than just a heroic magical ending. The ending could definitely support a future world free of the endless cycle of ice and fire and all it represented from the mystical standpoint. This also supports my theory that magic will come to an end in the world as well. Since we're on the topic of the final ending and I just read that interview with Isaac regarding Bran, I've decided I need to make the final prediction I have been hesitant to do (but hinted about) in my long prediction essay. So here goes! For a while now I've been leaning more towards the fans that theorize Bran is the final key to ending the war against The Night King. There are so many hints throughout his story in the show. Jojen, the CotF, Three-Eyed Raven, even Benjen ... they've all said The Night King was coming for Bran and he would have to be ready. Ready for what? if Bran is the one The Night King is really after, what does he have to do to defeat him? Become The Night King as some theorize? Warg into The Night King or into Viserion, or even one of the other dragons? I do think it's Bran, but I'm not quite certain on what he does with his powers that does it. It could be something really obscure we cannot predict yet, like many of us were shocked with the "Hold The Door" reveal being how Hodor got his name. So I think the closest I've seen anyone come to a theory that makes sense for what/how Bran does is this guy: Hope you get time to watch it before the final season starts and let me know what you think! So I'm going to state my official guess of how The Night King is defeated is by Bran Stark who will either warg into Viserion or into The Night King himself and stop the 'hive mind' of undead. Ok, I'm done sitting on the fence about that and placing my bets! We've only got a few more days to wait and then 6 episodes to find out! I finally got around to watching this video, and I gotta say, Bran/The Three-Eyed Raven embodying a sort of "collective consciousness" of the living, opposite to the Night King and his "hive mind" of the dead, makes a lot of sense. And I think he's right about Bran's arc ultimately being about what it means to be human and what life is worth. If the show does end in some form of catastrophe, someone's gotta feel the weight/human cost of it... and Bran seems ripe for this role.
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Post by Envie on Apr 20, 2019 20:44:26 GMT -5
[tr][td class="content"][article] And I think he's right about Bran's arc ultimately being about what it means to be human and what life is worth. If the show does end in some form of catastrophe, someone's gotta feel the weight/human cost of it... and Bran seems ripe for this role. I wonder if Bran already knows this and is moving the pieces around like a chessboard now so that everything (and everyone) is in the right place? As he says in the trailer ... "Everything you did brought you to where you are now. Where you belong: home." This is foreshadowing Bran knowing the outcome that has to happen, or manipulating that outcome? For those who like the theory that The Night King is after Jon and Dany's baby, here's the same youtuber with a short theory after 8x01 incorporating the Ned Umber/Spiral message and what it could possibly mean: I'm not a huge fan of the baby sacrifice theories, because it doesn't seem like a reasonable outcome after all this effort. I get it that people are looking for a way to fit the "Ice and Fire" theme into "The Prince Who Was Promised" prophecy but we just don't have a lot of time for a baby to even be born in the finale, let alone serve as some sort of sacrifice to The Night King. Unless it's via killing Daenerys - and that would be even less appealing to me. But, there you go, some reasonable and possible (if not probable) debate on the baby theory. What do you guys think?
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Post by mandzipop on Apr 23, 2019 18:38:23 GMT -5
I'm cheating in a fashion as we're 2 episodes in, but if, and it is a big if, there is an IT or some type of monarchy at the end of all of this, I can't see anyone other than Sansa ruling. There are small hints to this happening. Like Dany, people want to fight for her. However these people are the people of Westeros, not Essos. It isn't for revenge, it is out of loyalty and desire to do so. She didn't need to free them to get them on her side.
Another clue is Brienne. I think she will be the one to fill in Jamie's LC of the Kingsguard details after he has gone. On;y Brienne would be able to do that and make him look absolutely heroic, and she would only be able to do that if she were the LC of the Kings/Queensguard. Who does Brienne protect? Sansa.
I'm not prepared to speculate further yet, but that is my first prediction.
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Post by Envie on Apr 23, 2019 19:49:11 GMT -5
Another clue is Brienne. I think she will be the one to fill in Jamie's LC of the Kingsguard details after he has gone. On;y Brienne would be able to do that and make him look absolutely heroic, and she would only be able to do that if she were the LC of the Kings/Queensguard. Who does Brienne protect? Sansa. This would be a really sweet way to memorialize Jaime, I agree. A lot of people suspect Brienne's going to go down, but I am starting to think she will survive and as you say, create a Queensguard or some other order of knights that helps protect the realm(s) and inspires a new generation that will see things differently (such as accepting women to roles they did not previously hold).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:40:06 GMT -5
I'm cheating in a fashion as we're 2 episodes in, but if, and it is a big if, there is an IT or some type of monarchy at the end of all of this, I can't see anyone other than Sansa ruling. There are small hints to this happening. Like Dany, people want to fight for her. However these people are the people of Westeros, not Essos. It isn't for revenge, it is out of loyalty and desire to do so. She didn't need to free them to get them on her side.
Another clue is Brienne. I think she will be the one to fill in Jamie's LC of the Kingsguard details after he has gone. On;y Brienne would be able to do that and make him look absolutely heroic, and she would only be able to do that if she were the LC of the Kings/Queensguard. Who does Brienne protect? Sansa.
I'm not prepared to speculate further yet, but that is my first prediction.
I don’t see it. Sansa’s future is the north. Unless WF is made the new capital of Westeros, she will not be tied to ruling down south.
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Post by TheArchmaester on Apr 24, 2019 0:06:02 GMT -5
Another clue is Brienne. I think she will be the one to fill in Jamie's LC of the Kingsguard details after he has gone. On;y Brienne would be able to do that and make him look absolutely heroic, and she would only be able to do that if she were the LC of the Kings/Queensguard. Who does Brienne protect? Sansa. This would be a really sweet way to memorialize Jaime, I agree. A lot of people suspect Brienne's going to go down, but I am starting to think she will survive and as you say, create a Queensguard or some other order of knights that helps protect the realm(s) and inspires a new generation that will see things differently (such as accepting women to roles they did not previously hold). I've always thought Brienne would survive. She represents something "new". Like Davos and Sam. I think they all make it.
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