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Post by King Tommen on Apr 15, 2019 19:45:02 GMT -5
From the EW article a month ago E2 was described as "a calm-before-the-storm entry that might surprise viewers with its play-like intimacy".
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From the EW article a month ago E2 was described as "a calm-before-the-storm entry that might surprise viewers with its play-like intimacy". so no kings landing HBO I’m coming for you!
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Apr 15, 2019 20:30:20 GMT -5
From the EW article a month ago E2 was described as "a calm-before-the-storm entry that might surprise viewers with its play-like intimacy". so no kings landing HBO I’m coming for you! We might know if HBO decides to release some more promo photos for 802, but watch them not release one of Cersei.
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Post by sercreighton on Apr 15, 2019 21:01:30 GMT -5
From the EW article a month ago E2 was described as "a calm-before-the-storm entry that might surprise viewers with its play-like intimacy". so no kings landing HBO I’m coming for you! KL is the second act and the close, you will get plenty of Cersei center stage.
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Post by sercreighton on Apr 15, 2019 21:11:49 GMT -5
Promo is misleading as usual. I think Jaime gets his dressing down but Dany knows what her father was, and if Brie spills the beans about how he saved KL. But I think Jaime will stand on his own merits, I don't think Bran says anything. I also think when Dany mentions Varys what usually follows is he was an idiot.
On Dany trusting Cersei, she didn't she trusted Tyrion. Jon trusted Cersei as well, but really they all trusted Tyrion. Sansa trusted LF more of her hypocricy. She would of continued if not for Bran and Arya. But the shows memory has gotten very short.
It's basiclly more infighting before the big battle to show division. It will probably get more tense till Tormund shows up and is like morons there is a war, tonight. At which point Sansa will say she knew it would be tonight and has prepared her special armor for a battle she won't take part in. It's a very Cersei/Joff thing to do. I hope Jon asks her if she plans on fighting.
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Post by izzue on Apr 15, 2019 21:18:22 GMT -5
On Dany trusting Cersei, she didn't she trusted Tyrion. Jon trusted Cersei as well, but really they all trusted Tyrion. You're right - good point!
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Post by belle on Apr 15, 2019 21:49:28 GMT -5
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bdfapa/according_to_the_hbo_website_s8e1_was_titled/
Interesting! I really hope these episode titles are legit. Please please let ep 2 be titled “The Two Queens” 😭😭
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https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bdfapa/according_to_the_hbo_website_s8e1_was_titled/ Interesting! I really hope these episode titles are legit. Please please let ep 2 be titled “The Two Queens” 😭😭 ”Two Queens” and yet one of them isn’t even in the trailer...im gonna have to call bullshit on that one 💀 It’ll probably be something vague and random. Or a location, cause that’s a thing now.
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Post by belle on Apr 15, 2019 22:13:58 GMT -5
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bdfapa/according_to_the_hbo_website_s8e1_was_titled/ Interesting! I really hope these episode titles are legit. Please please let ep 2 be titled “The Two Queens” 😭😭 ”Two Queens” and yet one of them isn’t even in the trailer...im gonna have to call bullshit on that one 💀 It’ll probably be something vague and random. Or a location, cause that’s a thing now. I'm 100% fully prepared for her to skip the next episode. I just don't think it makes any sense. So i guess I have an inkling of hope that they're purposefully hiding her. But imo they're really been hyping up episode 3 as the last battle against NK and AOTD. even if you don't think the golden company will attack winterfell, there would have to be a twist or a surprise of some sort imo Another episode of reunions and then straight up battle would be kinda bland to reach to the half way point of the season
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Post by TheMadQueen on Apr 15, 2019 22:27:50 GMT -5
”Two Queens” and yet one of them isn’t even in the trailer...im gonna have to call bullshit on that one 💀 It’ll probably be something vague and random. Or a location, cause that’s a thing now. I'm 100% fully prepared for her to skip the next episode. I just don't think it makes any sense. So i guess I have an inkling of hope that they're purposefully hiding her. But imo they're really been hyping up episode 3 as the last battle against NK and AOTD. even if you don't think the golden company will attack winterfell, there would have to be a twist or a surprise of some sort imo Another episode of reunions and then straight up battle would be kinda bland to reach to the half way point of the season i think *that* Cersei scene should come in 802, so maybe they’re hiding that. But yeh idk what is going on with the AOTD.
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Post by belle on Apr 15, 2019 22:29:23 GMT -5
I'm 100% fully prepared for her to skip the next episode. I just don't think it makes any sense. So i guess I have an inkling of hope that they're purposefully hiding her. But imo they're really been hyping up episode 3 as the last battle against NK and AOTD. even if you don't think the golden company will attack winterfell, there would have to be a twist or a surprise of some sort imo Another episode of reunions and then straight up battle would be kinda bland to reach to the half way point of the season i think *that* Cersei scene should come in 802, so maybe they’re hiding that. But yeh idk what is going on with the AOTD. the AOTD will make it south imo ep 3 won't be the last we see of them but the way they're marketing it...that's what they want us to think.
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Post by katjushka on Apr 15, 2019 23:43:56 GMT -5
Also, Dany has made it clear she isn't a fan of her father and what he did so I think that line she's speaking in the promo will undoubtedly be followed by some kind of rebuke of Aerys' actions. I have a feeling that this public meeting will do more to help her standing in the eyes of the Northerners than hurt it. I wouldn't be suprised if it's actually the northeners who want Jaime to pay for his actions, not Dany.
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Post by konradsmith on Apr 16, 2019 0:31:45 GMT -5
Also, Dany has made it clear she isn't a fan of her father and what he did so I think that line she's speaking in the promo will undoubtedly be followed by some kind of rebuke of Aerys' actions. I have a feeling that this public meeting will do more to help her standing in the eyes of the Northerners than hurt it. I wouldn't be suprised if it's actually the northeners who want Jaime to pay for his actions, not Dany. I think it's particularly timely that the Karstark forces arrived at Winterfell shortly before Jaime did. We've seen now why Ned Umber was brought into the show but surely Alys will serve some narrative purpose too. Her being very anti-Jaime would fit.
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Post by mandzipop on Apr 16, 2019 5:20:41 GMT -5
I think if Dany is going to absolve Jamie then it sends a message to Sam that she is willing to forgive Jamie for not only murdering her father, but from taking everything from her. She wouldn’t have grown up with the life she had if Jamie hadn’t have done what he did. So her pardoning Jamie shows she’s willing to go beyond her own personal loss for the greater good. That should serve as an example to Sam which maybe Gilly will need to talk to him about to put it into perspective.
I know many don’t like what seems to be contrived bickering and are assuming everyone will get on after the battle against the AotD but I’m not betting on it. This might be setting up for what happens afterwards. I think Jon might end up being torn between Dany and his Stark family. The last time he had to choose between family and love he chose the watch who were his family over Ygritte. If Dany isn’t pregnant then I could see a split and another dance of dragons on the horizon. As Dany can’t have children people will push Jon’s claim to the throne.
As we haven’t had confirmation of Dany being pregnant yet that is my alternate theory. However I think there was a hint in 8x01 about Dany being pregnant which was the dragons not eating properly.
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Post by Envie on Apr 16, 2019 7:08:50 GMT -5
I'm hoping Dany chides him that what he did was fucked up, but acknowledges that her father was fucked up also. Then ends it with THE NK IS TWO BLOCKS AWAY PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!! I'd like it to turn out like that. There is actually a precedent for that, I think, back when she jumped on Varys for turning against monarchs that he served (and threatening that if he did that with her . . . ) but she did go on and grant Varys trust, 'forgive' him. I'd like it if she does that with Jaime, too. Good take on it! There's an even better precedent for Daenerys to do a callback to the terrible fathers speech she gave Yara and Theon: “Our fathers were evil men. All of us here. They left the world worse than they found it. We’re not going to do that. We’re going to leave the world better than we found it”I've always liked that one, and hope she reminds people again why Jaime can be pardoned and she should not be held to her father's madness. Jon said the same exact thing about not holding the children responsible for the mistakes of their fathers when he had the Umber and Karstark kids swear their fealty. This theme comes back around quite a few times and will with how Daenerys addresses Jaime
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