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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 9:30:59 GMT -5
One of Missandei/Grey Worm, Tormund, Theon are so going to die. Bad vibes. One. Or three. One of Grey Worm/Missandei + Tormund, Theon and maybe few others. Blue eyes joke from Edd to Tormund + Tormund surprised Jon in their reunion almost like as if he was a wight. Missandei and Grey Worm scene had that goodbye feeling to it. Theon well defending Bran who has to survive means likely one thing. It's coming full circle. I bet Edd, Beric, Ghost, Pod might be among casualties.
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Post by izzue on Apr 22, 2019 10:41:49 GMT -5
Missandei and Grey Worm scene had that goodbye feeling to it. You just reminded me of that last scene with Jon and Ygritte, when he told her Maester Aemon would 'fix her up' and she'd be OK. But sadly, not. 😟
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Post by izzue on Apr 22, 2019 10:45:29 GMT -5
I want Melisandre to show up sooooo bad. Maybe she’s hiding in the crypts as an old woman and saves people down there. Nagging at me is the memory of Jon telling Melisandre just before the BotB that if he died, not to bring him back. Surely that doesn't foretell Jon dying -
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 11:34:10 GMT -5
I want Melisandre to show up sooooo bad. Maybe she’s hiding in the crypts as an old woman and saves people down there. Nagging at me is the memory of Jon telling Melisandre just before the BotB that if he died, not to bring him back. Surely that doesn't foretell Jon dying - What worries me more than Mel/Jon scene is the fact once Dany is revealed to be pregnant, Jon's chances of dying are going up. If they get married before the final battle that would be the nail in the coffin IMO. A wedding like Rhaegar and Lyanna, as Jon talked about a secret wedding. Robb/Talisa also married in secrecy. Not that both will die but one might. Having a baby = sweet, losing Jon= bitter. I hope it won't come to that and speaking of fate. Dany's pregnancy will be likely giving birth in episode 6 and not before. I don't believe she'll die in childbirth either. She's okay IMO no matter how much certain fans want her dead, mad or whatever. I want Melisandre to show up sooooo bad. Maybe she’s hiding in the crypts as an old woman and saves people down there. I'm willing to wait for Mel to show up in King's Landing. I want Mel/Cersei scene so bad.
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Post by mandzipop on Apr 23, 2019 5:29:03 GMT -5
When Dany says the dead are already here, does anyone think she means the crypts?
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Post by Envie on Apr 23, 2019 7:13:17 GMT -5
When Dany says the dead are already here, does anyone think she means the crypts? Glad you brought this up because I meant to and forgot (so much to talk about in 802 discussions!). We're speculating whether or not all that heavy handed foreshadowing about how 'safe' the crypts are in 802 means the dead down there will rise during the battle. I'm really terrified of this idea! They've gone and set us up for this terror by putting all the women and children down there. Daenerys says that in the preview in a very angry or forceful tone so I'm not sure if that's more tension/disagreement between her and Jon or regarding actual real dead already there... I could see this being a reference to the dead who have caused them tension (Jon's parents for instance). Leaving the big reveal of Jon's identity for Daenerys until the very last minute of the episode tells me they are going to drag that tension out as long as possible and into the battle. That's not the real problem right now, but I guess it's going to remain a problem until after the battle.
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Post by belle on Apr 23, 2019 9:46:23 GMT -5
No nudity or sex in ep 3
obviously lol
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Post by konradsmith on Apr 23, 2019 12:34:38 GMT -5
No nudity or sex in ep 3 obviously lol I guess Jaime was right when he said NK wouldn't "expose himself".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 18:54:00 GMT -5
When Dany says the dead are already here, does anyone think she means the crypts? Glad you brought this up because I meant to and forgot (so much to talk about in 802 discussions!). We're speculating whether or not all that heavy handed foreshadowing about how 'safe' the crypts are in 802 means the dead down there will rise during the battle. I'm really terrified of this idea! They've gone and set us up for this terror by putting all the women and children down there. Daenerys says that in the preview in a very angry or forceful tone so I'm not sure if that's more tension/disagreement between her and Jon or regarding actual real dead already there... I could see this being a reference to the dead who have caused them tension (Jon's parents for instance). Leaving the big reveal of Jon's identity for Daenerys until the very last minute of the episode tells me they are going to drag that tension out as long as possible and into the battle. That's not the real problem right now, but I guess it's going to remain a problem until after the battle.The timing of Jon's reveal was done on purpose to be the last scene before the battle. I wouldn't be surprised if we have near-death experience for Jon or Dany, while the other is worried. It's sort of a classic trope. They might drag their tension beyond ep.3 because of not only Jon, Dany themselves but characters like Varys, Tyrion, Sansa who might know and will want to use it. I suppose, politics will play a part and the iron throne even tho it shouldn't a priority.
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Post by Envie on Apr 23, 2019 19:09:42 GMT -5
They might drag their tension beyond ep.3 because of not only Jon, Dany themselves but characters like Varys, Tyrion, Sansa who might know and will want to use it. I suppose, politics will play a part and the iron throne even tho it shouldn't a priority. I really thought by now all of that would have been set aside, especially for those who went beyond the wall and actually saw just how terrifying the situation is, including Daenerys who lost a dragon. That she's still fixating on the throne is concerning. But, I suppose despite the ominous line Bran gave Jaime, yes, in fact, there is an afterwards and we will go back to fighting over the Iron Throne for the second half of the season. I expect this from Cersei, and I expect the survivors to have to contend with it. I was hoping not to have it from our main heroes this late in the game - but the wheel is clearly still turning.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 19:36:02 GMT -5
They might drag their tension beyond ep.3 because of not only Jon, Dany themselves but characters like Varys, Tyrion, Sansa who might know and will want to use it. I suppose, politics will play a part and the iron throne even tho it shouldn't a priority. I really thought by now all of that would have been set aside, especially for those who went beyond the wall and actually saw just how terrifying the situation is, including Daenerys who lost a dragon. That she's still fixating on the throne is concerning. But, I suppose despite the ominous line Bran gave Jaime, yes, in fact, there is an afterwards and we will go back to fighting over the Iron Throne for the second half of the season. I expect this from Cersei, and I expect the survivors to have to contend with it. I was hoping not to have it from our main heroes this late in the game - but the wheel is clearly still turning. I must admit, for a sec I thought that NK might be dealt with in ep.3 and then the rest of the season is for the iron throne given all the talks about independence, iron throne, claims etc. But then, it would really be surprising for NK to be defeated so early. I guess we'll have the good old politics vs fantasy aspect and characters wrestling in-between. It is frustrating but a part of the show. Like I understand where is Dany coming from working all her life to achieve her goal in claiming the iron throne. Even if claiming throne does sound like something Robert, Cersei and many others did before, where is Break the Wheel part in it? We might find out. Their victory against NK is far from certain at this point. Speculating, planning for afterward is rn premature no matter how you slice it. What is worse, Jon wants nothing to do with iron throne and according to Emilia Clarke, Dany knows that. Then I ask why do we need that needless tension, just for the sake of it? Army of undead zombies is coming. I took that ominous pep talk from Bran as a sign that Jaime will die so no need to worry about his past actions. He was concerned if they find out eventually. Bran is playing the long game here with everything and we should find out what is his plan. It can't just let's sit in the Godswood and wait for him, he's coming to kill us all but there has tobe more to them and their rivalry.
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Post by Envie on Apr 23, 2019 19:56:00 GMT -5
Even if claiming throne does sound like something Robert, Cersei and many others did before, where is Break the Wheel part in it? We might find out. There is a possibility all this tension is just a distraction because something bigger is going to happen in the second half that breaks the wheel and we just don't know yet what that is - we're missing the pieces. The writers are clearly capable of giving us shocking twists even this late in the game so I'm keeping my frustration at Dany's repetitive fixation and entitlement at a simmer because I think there's definitely a turning point coming after episode 3 and the long night is really upon us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 20:42:08 GMT -5
Even if claiming throne does sound like something Robert, Cersei and many others did before, where is Break the Wheel part in it? We might find out. There is a possibility all this tension is just a distraction because something bigger is going to happen in the second half that breaks the wheel and we just don't know yet what that is - we're missing the pieces. The writers are clearly capable of giving us shocking twists even this late in the game so I'm keeping my frustration at Dany's repetitive fixation and entitlement at a simmer because I think there's definitely a turning point coming after episode 3 and the long night is really upon us. I was thinking that along the lines of what Sam aid about giving up titles and the song of Jenny of Oldstones is about king again giving up the title for his peasant lover. REsulting in democracy as a pretty big jump that would change things a lot, or maybe other forms of monarchy that do not require one ruler but a council that takes care of major decisions. Not to mention 'love is the death of duty' from the show and books. I might be looking into it as I'm going back-and-forth between them ruling, dying, eloping never to be seen again. All of this tension seems like Sansa/Arya from last season because to them it might become boring if they're just in love. To use it's frustrating.
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