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Post by atargbyanothername on Apr 30, 2019 17:20:35 GMT -5
Cersei-Anne Conway, i buy it
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Post by TheMadQueen on Apr 30, 2019 17:23:33 GMT -5
I think as soon as Bronn strolls up to Jaime with a crossbow pointed at him and says "your sister sent me" that will really be it for him. I’d be very surprised if Bronn actually tried to kill either Jaime or Tyrion i don’t think he ever would either, but the fact that Cersei wanted him to is enough
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Post by TheMadQueen on Apr 30, 2019 17:24:31 GMT -5
that doesn’t confirm that like...at all
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Post by belle on Apr 30, 2019 17:41:43 GMT -5
that doesn’t confirm that like...at all I was joking lmao but I think it’s fair to say jon’s parentage will probably finally become a relevant plot point in ep 4
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Not getting that at all
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Post by belle on Apr 30, 2019 17:46:04 GMT -5
Not getting that at all I was joking 2.0
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Post by Envie on Apr 30, 2019 17:58:01 GMT -5
but I think it’s fair to say jon’s parentage will probably finally become a relevant plot point in ep 4 I've been thinking about this, and how it's going to play out at Winterfell in this episode. I can't seem to pull together coherent plot possibilities at all right after this big battle they just survived. I mean, based on the tiny flash of bits we got in the preview, it looks like they're leading us to believe everything's victorious for everyone and they've come together - with Daenerys proclaiming they'll win the next war as well, and everyone cheering ... but maybe those two bits aren't even in the same scene. The only thing I can tell for certain is that they are definitely rebuilding Winterfell right away, and Dany/Jon also leave fairly quickly but I'm not certain if that's together or not. There's nothing at all here that hints if Jon's identity is revealed to everyone. Is it possible they just keep this under wraps even longer? Are they waiting for some big impactful moment NOT in Winterfell?
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Post by sercreighton on Apr 30, 2019 19:40:06 GMT -5
but I think it’s fair to say jon’s parentage will probably finally become a relevant plot point in ep 4 I've been thinking about this, and how it's going to play out at Winterfell in this episode. I can't seem to pull together coherent plot possibilities at all right after this big battle they just survived. I mean, based on the tiny flash of bits we got in the preview, it looks like they're leading us to believe everything's victorious for everyone and they've come together - with Daenerys proclaiming they'll win the next war as well, and everyone cheering ... but maybe those two bits aren't even in the same scene. The only thing I can tell for certain is that they are definitely rebuilding Winterfell right away, and Dany/Jon also leave fairly quickly but I'm not certain if that's together or not. There's nothing at all here that hints if Jon's identity is revealed to everyone. Is it possible they just keep this under wraps even longer? Are they waiting for some big impactful moment NOT in Winterfell? All I can tell is the scene with Dany and Missy and Varys is not the same as her holding up the cup at what looks like a party at Winterfell. When they show her saying they will win the last war, that's an earlier scene, she is in the dress she has been wearing for all of season 8. At the party and in the hall she is wearing a Crimsion dress. Much more formal. Though she could switch back after the party. It is hard for me to see a lot of conflict at Winterfell. Dany more than pulled her weight, and the Unsullied did the heavy lifting during the battle. Cersei is being built up by the show as being worse than the NK so I can't see why anyone would object to taking her down. Though I think you need to do something to make her seem worse than the walking not talking apocalypse. The north are clearly enthralled with her at the party Royce is jumping up and down. Though I don't know what she said. Even though Jon dropped a bomb on her, those two clearly had zero problem working as a team, she saved his life and was like go get him peaches. Then spent the next five minutes on the ground with her best friend who died, killing Wights with a sword. When Jon found her because I doubt she moved he must of been in shock. She is laying on the ground weeping over a fallen northern lord. That's like Ooops we totally misjudged her moment of moments. Arya has been wanting to take down Cersei, that's where she was headed before Winterfell. Sansa could object but that's a stretch. She always says Cersei is a monster and while Dany lives she won't rest till she is dead. Sure she could say Dany should leave and we want no part. But happens when Jon reveals the truth about himself, if that becomes public Jon is in as much danger as Dany. Sansa won't let her come for him. I can't see it. And Arya? I think that may be how Jon settles some things, Jon don't lie. He felt the need to tell Dany he isn't going to run around letting them think he is Ned Starks son when he isn't. It would be out of character. He could sit on it but why? Bran knows, Sam knows, Dany knows, it makes sense he tells his sister/cousins. I fully expect Arya to look at him and say "I am not calling you Aegon, your name is Aemon and your a Dragon Knight." I have heard it suggested that the feast we see and the Crimson dress, is actually her wedding Dress. Will see. Or she could be wearing it to someone else's wedding like Sam and Gilly or Sansa and Tyrion. I can't see a party right after the funeral where she isn't wearing the dress, but something must happen, she don't get dressed up for nothing. Everyone at that party is way to happy, Dany is smiling, Dany almost never smiles and it's some kind of toast. Whatever it is Jon, Dany and Arya not to mention all the POV's picked up all kinds of street cred in the north and Vale.
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Post by sercreighton on Apr 30, 2019 20:08:19 GMT -5
A few things I would like see done in this episode hopefully at that party.
Brie: Podrick, take a knee.
He earned it.
Dany: Lord Jaime Lannister take a knee.
I want his vows renewed or QG. Or anything, he kept his vow.
Dany: Samwell Tarly
I want her to return Heartsbane to him. He is standing with her at the Pyre. I want them to talk, I want her to apologize to him. Sam is the reason Jorah could protect her. She owes him a life debt.
Tyrion and Sansa, make the peace between your houses.
Sansa and Dany, fucking stomp it out. Seriously enough is enough no more shade, she pulled her weight and 10 times that. Sansa saw her stem the hoard on Drogon when they were being overrun. She saw her fly into the mist, while she was sent to the crypts. If I see any shade I am going to punch a producer.
Jon and Dany finish their conversation, you can't go through that and not know you care about eachother, even if it's just friends. They fought together,
Forget going south, just send Arya. She does everything anyway.
This promo and episode sets up the second half its like episode 1 again and it puts the pieces into place for 5 and 6. What is everyone doing after the climactic first half.
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Post by belle on Apr 30, 2019 20:55:22 GMT -5
Is cersei herself on a ship tho? Kinda looks like it
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Post by sercreighton on Apr 30, 2019 21:15:49 GMT -5
Is cersei herself on a ship tho? Kinda looks like it Yeah that's what we think, it's from promo the full shot has her, Euron and the Mountain. Some think she gets married on the ship mostly because we see Euron looking like he is proposing as well.
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Post by Envie on Apr 30, 2019 21:16:50 GMT -5
I have heard it suggested that the feast we see and the Crimson dress, is actually her wedding Dress. Will see. Or she could be wearing it to someone else's wedding like Sam and Gilly or Sansa and Tyrion. A wedding does seem to be just about the only happy event that could occur so swiftly on the heels of the great battle. While yes, they defeated the Night King, it wasn't without a lot of casualties for both the armies and the characters.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Apr 30, 2019 21:18:50 GMT -5
Yeah I watched a video and they think the red dress dany is wearing is her wedding dress and we see her at their feast. Personally idk, unless they have a shotgun wedding after the battle.
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