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Post by Envie on Jul 11, 2016 13:38:45 GMT -5
Episode 10 - Fire and BloodRe-Watch Date: Wednesday, August 17th 2016. HBO Synopsis Page: www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/episodes/1/10-fire-and-blood/synopsis.htmlRuntime: 52 minutes Release date: June 19, 2011 Season One Finale. As tragic news spreads across the Seven Kingdoms, Bran and Rickon share a prophetic dream, Catelyn interrogates Jaime about her son's fall, and Robb's destiny is forever changed. Tyrion heads south; Arya assumes a new identity; Sansa is terrorized by Joffrey; Jon must choose between the Nights Watch and his family; Dany pays a terrible price for her love.
* NOTE: Please wait until the day of the re-watch to begin the discussion so that everyone has time to join in once they've watched since we're all in different time-zones and parts of the world.
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Post by Envie on Aug 18, 2016 9:35:49 GMT -5
This episode was so fantastic and so full of great imagery and symbolism and a few parallels for later in the season and story. I'll definitely need help with this week's write-up so I hope you all took good notes on what you noticed!
One thing I remember strongly from the books that was left out of the show was how Daenerys exactly knew burning the eggs (and the maegi) would bring the dragons to life. Like many, I sought exact meaning and clues and often read backwards in searching. The show did a decent job of showing Dany's obsession with the eggs and putting them in the brazier but they gave few clues she knew what she was doing at the time she ordered the funeral pyre built which may have been done purposely to mislead show fans into thinking (like Jorah) that she intended to kill herself on the pyre.
In the books we had these quotes:
In the show they did have her say it was Mirri Maz Duur's life she wants so I think that was clear she was sacrificing her but perhaps as punishment.
It's obviously impossible to portray a character's internal thoughts on the show the way GRRM can do so in the books, but it was this line that really gave me the best hint that Daenerys had already thought this plan out a long time ago though not of course, with Drogo's death as the catalyst.
I always felt like this implied the flames were seducing Daenerys to walk into them, as if the moment was planned but yet out of her control and she was being guided to do this thing.
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Post by dje on Aug 20, 2016 12:22:54 GMT -5
Okay, Finally got this episode watched... some of my favorite moments were... Joffery has Sansa beaten for the first time, although I love when she says maybe Robb will give her Jofferys head. Arya meets Gendry, love scenes with those two... Robb is declared KITN... Jon chooses duty over family, after coaxing from his brothers... Dany hatching the dragons on Drogos pyre... Also, nice analysis Envie, as usual.
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Post by moiaf on Aug 20, 2016 16:16:59 GMT -5
A great episode all around,, every scene a setup for what's to come.
Catelyn walking through the woods to go cry privately always breaks my heart, I can feel her pain with he very step (I miss Micheele) and Robb hacking at the tree with his sword all the pain of loosing his father etched in his face. Poor Robb.
Sansa being forced to see her father's dead head and still finding the strength to defy Joffrey, realizing that he's a bully who prays on toher's weaknesses. The pampered and dreamy little girl that arrived at King's Landing is no more.
Arya being transformed in to Ary, and about to take her on a journey much larger than she could ever imagine. I like her interactions with Gendry and hope we see his return at least to close that loop.
Tyrion being named Hand of the King. You can see in his face the hope that maybe he can make his father proud, he still has his sinnesism but deep down he still craves his father's approval.
Varys and Little Finger playing their game. We get Varys mentioning how Littlefinger wants to sit on the Iron Throne. At first this seems no more than a pipe dream and you don't really take in seriously. But as the series goes on you see how Littlefinger's machinations are really meant to truly make him King.
Jon wanting to go to his brother and help his family but is brought back by his new family and friends. And chooses to do the job he signed up to do. He is growing and taking responsibility for himself, he made a choice and now he has to live with it.
And of course Dany who waked to find that her baby is dead and her husband is a zombie. To learn that sometimes a good dead is not enough. Later having to smother the only family she has left, a man she truly loved. All this topped off by the epic birth of the dragons, still an amazing scene.
We started the season with ice and we ended it with fire.
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 21, 2016 3:47:33 GMT -5
Oh Lancel. Don't say "When you were young". Lena/Cersei looks good for any age. There's no need to make her self-conscious. Just be glad at the opportunity to be with her. Don't get on her nerves. She might just wildfire you one day...
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 21, 2016 3:49:20 GMT -5
And then we have his daddy Kev-man. "Perhaps we should sue for peace." These two fellers were a bit at odds with the more ruthless element of their family.
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 21, 2016 3:52:53 GMT -5
The way that Charles Dance says whore.
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 21, 2016 4:14:58 GMT -5
Momoa's married to Lisa Bonet already. One of the best-looking women ever to live (particularly in Angel Heart). And then he gets these tender scenes with Emilia. It's too much. The man's greedy.
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 21, 2016 4:57:20 GMT -5
Oh 2010 Emilia.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 5:07:31 GMT -5
Oh 2010 Emilia. I'm going to start editing your post's to take out the 2010 crap. She's as beautiful as ever and I don't care what you say!
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 21, 2016 5:18:23 GMT -5
Oh 2010 Emilia. I'm going to start editing your post's to take out the 2010 crap. She's as beautiful as ever and I don't care what you say! There's a rationale for it all., But when I get to 201 it'll be Carice I focus on anyhow. I doubt I'll go into much Emilia detail in rewatch threads from here on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 5:21:46 GMT -5
I'm going to start editing your post's to take out the 2010 crap. She's as beautiful as ever and I don't care what you say! There's a rationale for it all., But when I get to 201 it'll be Carice I focus on anyhow. I doubt I'll go into much Emilia detail in rewatch threads from here on. I watched 2x01 earlier. Carice looked so lovely in the firelight on the beach. Cressen got what he deserved!
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 21, 2016 5:24:32 GMT -5
There's a rationale for it all., But when I get to 201 it'll be Carice I focus on anyhow. I doubt I'll go into much Emilia detail in rewatch threads from here on. I watched 2x01 earlier. Carice looked so lovely in the firelight on the beach. Cressen got what he deserved! Her s2 wig's much worse than the one she's had since. But as per usual people who question her deserve the fire. That's just expected.
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