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Post by moiaf on Aug 2, 2016 12:56:06 GMT -5
Suicide Squad reviews are starting to come out...and it has a 37% on RT so far Wow! That's not good. I didn't have any sort of expectation for the film but I thought it would be better than that. Maybe those reviewers were really picky....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 13:04:05 GMT -5
Wow, Suicide Squad reviews are scathing. Damn, lordcarson . You called it.
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Post by lordcarson on Aug 2, 2016 13:15:47 GMT -5
Wow, Suicide Squad reviews are scathing. Damn, lordcarson . You called it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 14:15:49 GMT -5
Wow, Suicide Squad reviews are scathing. Damn, lordcarson . You called it. this is delicious.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 16:51:41 GMT -5
Ouch
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 17:06:06 GMT -5
Jeremy loved it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 2:41:33 GMT -5
Lawd, even the good reviews for this are actually kind of shit. I was not expecting this to get so heavily panned. I admit, I'm loving it. I was never on board with this from the moment I saw Leto's Joker. And I hate Harley Quinn so a movie with the two of them at the front (even if it is just promo skillduggery) is not my idea of fun.
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 3, 2016 2:59:56 GMT -5
The whole idea of trying to emulate what Marvel's up to was always a shitty one for DC imo. I don't care for any of the Marvel Universe movies I've seen save for the first Iron Man... but from a business perspective they've done extremely well and also managed to get pretty decent reception along the way. So I understand why DC's trying the same. But they've rushed it so completely. They should've built up to this stone-by-stone and made it flow naturally. But they're trying to compete right off the bat with what they're competitors have building up to for more than a decade. Which is just silliness. And entrusting it all to Hack Snyder in the first place proved that it would never amount to much. Now getting David Ayer for Suicide Squad was slightly encouraging but when it comes to the producing team and the franchise-building, given the amount of trust that was put into Hack Snyder's "vision", I don't see how any piece of this puzzle could turn out well. Myself I only really care about the Batman side of the DC mythos. Superman to me is a dud character. Especially in Hack Snyder's hands. And to have all of this magical shit clogging up the universe after what Nolan did so well in grounding his films is pure From what I've seen to pull Batman off well there are a few angles you can go with. You can make it a crime drama, either in a film noir vein or in a modern realistic vein. You can make it campy. Or if you're going to include all the supernatural stuff... MAKE IT SCARY. If you're going to pull of all of the mystical stuff and have the villains who are essentially monsters appear literally then MAKE IT AN OUT-AND-OUT HORROR FILM. Do an adaptation of the Arkham Asylum comic. What you can't do is have your cake and eat it too and mix and match all of the above elements I've mentioned and rush them all together into a franchise where you have one scene with one tone and genre and another cut from wholly different cloth, trying to please all segments of the fandom at once. Say what you will about Marvel (and I'll say flatly that I don't like what I've seen of their movies) they've at least built a consistent style and tone in their franchise. What the DC people have tried and rushed at doing in their premature competitiveness is just throw every conceivable angle for their characters at the board at once. And again, bad reviews out the wazoo. On the upside though, they'll probably still make a fuckton of money. Which is what these sorts of movies are about in the end anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 3:02:23 GMT -5
The crazies need to see this: Especially those flops claiming the critics were bought by Marvel
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Post by konradsmith on Aug 3, 2016 3:08:57 GMT -5
Which reminds me off-topically how much the show Gotham turning out lousy bugged me. Because my friend and I had a very similar idea years ago for a show (though it wouldn't rehash the origin story it'd be with an adult Batman and all of the villains) for a show by the same name in which the city would be the main character rather than any one protagonist. That's what I felt Nolan's films lost after Batman Begins and the Burton movies had in abundance. They made the setting of Gotham key. Make it a seedy, misty city where Batman and Bruce Wayne are allowed to be side-characters when necessary and the character is appropriately sidelined so as to make his appearances all the more effective. But they too blew it. I still have an idea for a half-decent one-off Batman miniseries but I won't go into detail in case they steal that from me too.
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Post by moiaf on Aug 3, 2016 7:10:36 GMT -5
The crazies need to see this: Especially those flops claiming the critics were bought by Marvel Gold!
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Post by moiaf on Aug 3, 2016 8:39:29 GMT -5
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Post by lordcarson on Aug 3, 2016 10:19:58 GMT -5
This thing was doomed from the start when they decided to introduce like fifteen characters in a two hour movie. Avengers works because they all got their own stand alone movies first to create the characters. This is just too much too quickly and I never thought it would be anything more than an incoherent mess.
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