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Post by mandzipop on Dec 29, 2016 22:52:31 GMT -5
He's definitely not Spanish. I can't speak a word of Spanish and even I worked out that he wasn't Spanish. Spanish is my first language and I can assure you 100% that this Cine guy doesn't speak a word of spanish.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Dec 29, 2016 23:06:35 GMT -5
I got to episode 6 and gave up. Total fanfiction. It's also just a lot of fucking text.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Dec 29, 2016 23:15:08 GMT -5
I got to episode 6 and gave up. Total fanfiction. I can't blame you. It's an unholy wall of text and reeks of fanfiction. I'm still totally convinced that the only legit leaker so far is Lads. He's the only one whose claims (at least a good part of them) are backed up by actual shooting info from reliable sources (WoTW , L7R). The other ones are just trolls/attention whores/bored people.
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Post by moiaf on Dec 29, 2016 23:25:41 GMT -5
I got to episode 6 and gave up. Total fanfiction. I can't blame you. It's an unholy wall of text and reeks of fanfiction. I'm still totally convinced that the only legit leaker so far is Lads. He's the only one whose claims (at least a good part of them) are backed up by actual shooting info from reliable sources (WoTW , L7R). The other ones are just trolls/attention whores/bored people. Seriously! What is going on. This really got me going: Sooo, did Ned contact a Maester and informed him that his little sister had a baby and that the baby was called Aegon. Because I can't think of another way a Maester would know that. I mean we are talking about the same Ned who lied to the entire realm about his supposed son. Esta mierda me está dando dolor de cabeza.
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Post by moiaf on Dec 29, 2016 23:28:45 GMT -5
Oh, and Jon is TPTWP/AAR and everything else because reasons. The chick with the dragons, she got nothing to do with this.
Wouldn't it make more sense if Mel is confused once she meets Dany making the whole thing ambiguous, like I think it's meant to be.
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Post by moiaf on Dec 29, 2016 23:44:09 GMT -5
This just occurred to me, how would Cine's contact know what Dany's reactions and actions are once she's atop dragonback and for that matter any dragonback scrnes. Those scenes wouldn't be filmed with the rest of the outdoor scene in Ireland. Those are CGI and would be filmed later at a sound stage and won't be put together until much later.
Just saying.
ETA: And the Wall scenes won't be filmed until next month when they're in Iceland.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Dec 29, 2016 23:50:45 GMT -5
Oh, and Jon is TPTWP/AAR and everything else because reasons. The chick with the dragons, she got nothing to do with this. Wouldn't it make more sense if Mel is confused once she meets Dany making the whole thing ambiguous, like I think it's meant to be. I think both Jon and Dany are TPTWP/AAR at this point.
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Post by Lils on Dec 29, 2016 23:55:21 GMT -5
Oh, and Jon is TPTWP/AAR and everything else because reasons. The chick with the dragons, she got nothing to do with this. Wouldn't it make more sense if Mel is confused once she meets Dany making the whole thing ambiguous, like I think it's meant to be. I think both Jon and Dany are TPTWP/AAR at this point. I think that goes back to Rhaegar in Dany's vision saying "The dragon has three heads. I don't think TPTWP/AAR is just one person.
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Post by Lils on Dec 30, 2016 0:11:07 GMT -5
I got to episode 6 and gave up. Total fanfiction. I can't blame you. It's an unholy wall of text and reeks of fanfiction. I'm still totally convinced that the only legit leaker so far is Lads. He's the only one whose claims (at least a good part of them) are backed up by actual shooting info from reliable sources (WoTW , L7R). The other ones are just trolls/attention whores/bored people. So I just read that whole post and I'm a bit confused? Is it the bolded parts that came from the fake leaker? A lot of that stuff jived with what Lads said. A lot of it is jumping to conclusions in some places and assuming character motivations, but there are some things that seem like they came from Lads.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Dec 30, 2016 0:12:59 GMT -5
I can't blame you. It's an unholy wall of text and reeks of fanfiction. I'm still totally convinced that the only legit leaker so far is Lads. He's the only one whose claims (at least a good part of them) are backed up by actual shooting info from reliable sources (WoTW , L7R). The other ones are just trolls/attention whores/bored people. So I just read that whole post and I'm a bit confused? Is it the bolded parts that came from the fake leaker? A lot of that stuff jived with what Lads said. A lot of it is jumping to conclusions in some places and assuming character motivations, but there are some things that seem like they came from Lads.They combined Lads leaks with their own speculation.
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Post by Lils on Dec 30, 2016 0:14:01 GMT -5
So I just read that whole post and I'm a bit confused? Is it the bolded parts that came from the fake leaker? A lot of that stuff jived with what Lads said. A lot of it is jumping to conclusions in some places and assuming character motivations, but there are some things that seem like they came from Lads.They combined Lads leaks with their own speculation. Ah! Yeah that would make sense.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 5:59:16 GMT -5
Red flag with that cine leak is that he says it has been filmed already, but am I not right in saying that the beyond the Wall/wight hunt section isn't to be filmed until next year?
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Post by moiaf on Dec 30, 2016 7:20:53 GMT -5
Red flag with that cine leak is that he says it has been filmed already, but am I not right in saying that the beyond the Wall/wight hunt section isn't to be filmed until next year? I think the Belfast portion has been filmed or at least most of it. Here is the report from the beginning of December with Kit on set at the quarry watchersonthewall.com/exclusive-wolf-hill-quarry-set-picture-main-character-new-caceres-details/But like I said yesterday, the parts that take place in Iceland and all the CGI including the dragons has not be filled, which would include the majority of Emilia's scene. I can't imagine Emilia will be doing many scenes not on top of a dragon. Also, while everyone was filming in Belfast, I believe she was in Cáceres. So, whatever she had to do in Belfast very little.
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Post by mandzipop on Dec 30, 2016 8:44:37 GMT -5
The bits of Cine's posts 4 which I think could be correct (but probably more through guesswork than factual evidence). Jon is hunting wights to bring back as proof but he goes himself because it hasnt worked before. Jon wants to go alone but Dany wont let him. When jon an all get north of the wall, there are tons of wights everywhere. There is a big fight where the good guys are penned in. they all think they will die but the dragons come...they breathe fire on the wight hoard and kill a ton of them. Then the Night King shows up with way more wights and the wight polar bear. he's a smug asshole Dany calls drogon back to get her and she rides him in to burn everybody up. she decimates teh wights, Jon knows they ahve to get out of there so he tells dany to save Jorah and Tormund and Thoros and a few others who are there. She cant let herself or drogon be hurt and the wights are coming in hard, so she takes off and leaves Jon behind. Jon is in the woods running towad the wall and Benejn is there. he was watching the whole time and he gives Jon his wight horse to ride away and then Bengjen dies too. The things I suspect he might be onto something. Jon asks Dany to bring the wight back by dragon. its because Thoror or Melisander (i can't confirm which, source just said a red fire god preacher) says that the dragons are magic and and being around a dragon would keep the wight magic going. So jon can only be killed for real now by the Night king and his sword and the night king and the walkers can only be killed by dragonglass and valyreian steel. All of the initial ones pretty much tie up with Lads version. The character motivations of what I've listed are based upon knowing the characters. I'm not having a go at Dany as I know some people were a bit upset by her reasoning to fly off. I don't like how he phrased it though. Dany knows that she is absolutely essential to fighting the wights. Someone has to control the dragons and she is the only person that can do that. If anything happens to her and the dragons, Westeros is doomed. I also suspect that Jon will send an instruction to tell Dany to leave. The other 2 are even more speculative and do deserve consideration. Not that Cine is right, but more in the whole grand scheme of things. Can the wights only be transported by dragons as they are both magical? Does Jon have a magical protective shield? I personally think the answer might be yes to both. I think the dragons part is yes whilst ever the wall stands. After that, no. Then the wights can move anywhere as the magic of the wall has been destroyed. Jon has plot armour which is a magical shield all of its own. But I think it was hinted at in BotB that he had some sort of protection. It was especially obvious with the arrows all being aimed at him. If this immortality is true, I'd suspect that it is only applicable whilst ever the Night King is around. Jon would return to normal once he and the whitewalkers are destroyed. These theories might not be true, however they are interesting to consider. My conclusion is that Cine knows nothing. Entertaining reading material though. Can I apologise for last nights posts, I was drunk.
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Post by Lils on Dec 30, 2016 11:19:57 GMT -5
I'm not so sure about Jon only being able to be killed by the Night King or what have you. It makes Jon to invincible and GRRM, as well as D & D, seem to enjoy having an equal counter balance to things. Dany has 3 dragons, which makes her seem unstoppable, but the playing field gets evened out by (a possible) dragon weapon and the Night King getting Viserion. I don't doubt that Jon is special, but I think it is a bit of stretch to think he can only be killed by the Night King.
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