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Post by Diablotion on Jun 24, 2016 3:09:43 GMT -5
In regards to Winterfell, here is what he says (sorry if there are mistakes, as you know, I don't really speak Spanish, but it's enough to understand most of it ): - Davos confronts Mel about Shireen. Mel confesses, but Jon does absolutely nothing. Davos implores Jon to do something, but Jon seems to be almost indifferent to it. Frikidoctor also talks about Jon being Azor Ahai. I guess Frikidoctor thinks that Mel can't die yet, because she is the only one who thinks Jon is AA, that's why the show can't kill her off yet. - All the Northern Lords have a reunion and Lyanna Mormont scolds them, because she says that House Mormont was the only House to support Jon/Sansa. They get totally owned by Lyanna. The Northern Lords feel really bad about this. They don't care that Jon is just a bastard and name him King in the North. - Sansa's reaction to all of this remains unclear. She talks to LF, but the conversation doesn't really show us how Sansa feels about Jon being named KitN. Frikidoctor says that will be explored next season. Davos will be furious if Jon fails to take action. Lyanna forgets house Hornwood and house Mazin. Any word on Lord Manderly? I'm getting anxious! I think Sansa will accept this and so on. A "kingsmoot" between Stark siblings would be weird as hell.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 4:57:36 GMT -5
In regards to Winterfell, here is what he says (sorry if there are mistakes, as you know, I don't really speak Spanish, but it's enough to understand most of it ): - Davos confronts Mel about Shireen. Mel confesses, but Jon does absolutely nothing. Davos implores Jon to do something, but Jon seems to be almost indifferent to it. Frikidoctor also talks about Jon being Azor Ahai. I guess Frikidoctor thinks that Mel can't die yet, because she is the only one who thinks Jon is AA, that's why the show can't kill her off yet. - All the Northern Lords have a reunion and Lyanna Mormont scolds them, because she says that House Mormont was the only House to support Jon/Sansa. They get totally owned by Lyanna. The Northern Lords feel really bad about this. They don't care that Jon is just a bastard and name him King in the North. - Sansa's reaction to all of this remains unclear. She talks to LF, but the conversation doesn't really show us how Sansa feels about Jon being named KitN. Frikidoctor says that will be explored next season. Davos will be furious if Jon fails to take action. Lyanna forgets house Hornwood and house Mazin. Any word on Lord Manderly? I'm getting anxious! I think Sansa will accept this and so on. A "kingsmoot" between Stark siblings would be weird as hell. Jon clearly has changed. Old Jon would never have dismissed thism
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 5:01:46 GMT -5
In regards to Winterfell, here is what he says (sorry if there are mistakes, as you know, I don't really speak Spanish, but it's enough to understand most of it ): - Davos confronts Mel about Shireen. Mel confesses, but Jon does absolutely nothing. Davos implores Jon to do something, but Jon seems to be almost indifferent to it. Frikidoctor also talks about Jon being Azor Ahai. I guess Frikidoctor thinks that Mel can't die yet, because she is the only one who thinks Jon is AA, that's why the show can't kill her off yet. - All the Northern Lords have a reunion and Lyanna Mormont scolds them, because she says that House Mormont was the only House to support Jon/Sansa. They get totally owned by Lyanna. The Northern Lords feel really bad about this. They don't care that Jon is just a bastard and name him King in the North. - Sansa's reaction to all of this remains unclear. She talks to LF, but the conversation doesn't really show us how Sansa feels about Jon being named KitN. Frikidoctor says that will be explored next season. Davos will be furious if Jon fails to take action. Lyanna forgets house Hornwood and house Mazin. Any word on Lord Manderly? I'm getting anxious! I think Sansa will accept this and so on. A "kingsmoot" between Stark siblings would be weird as hell. I don't think he mentions what consequences Davos takes, whether he stays at Winterfell or not. I imagine that's something we'll see next season. Maybe Lyanna says that House Mormont is one of the very few Houses to support the Starks instead of "the only House." Seems more likely. No word on Lord Manderly I think. I agree, I don't wanna see Jon vs Sansa. Not here for that.
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Post by Diablotion on Jun 24, 2016 5:20:54 GMT -5
Davos will be furious if Jon fails to take action. Lyanna forgets house Hornwood and house Mazin. Any word on Lord Manderly? I'm getting anxious! I think Sansa will accept this and so on. A "kingsmoot" between Stark siblings would be weird as hell. Jon clearly has changed. Old Jon would never have dismissed thism He's dismissing a change to be just. Davos will be furious if Jon fails to take action. Lyanna forgets house Hornwood and house Mazin. Any word on Lord Manderly? I'm getting anxious! I think Sansa will accept this and so on. A "kingsmoot" between Stark siblings would be weird as hell. I don't think he mentions what consequences Davos takes, whether he stays at Winterfell or not. I imagine that's something we'll see next season. Maybe Lyanna says that House Mormont is one of the very few Houses to support the Starks instead of "the only House." Seems more likely. No word on Lord Manderly I think. I agree, I don't wanna see Jon vs Sansa. Not here for that. Who else can Davos serve? Tinfoil, but what if Davos kills Melisandre and Jon executes Davos for disobeying him in S7?
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Post by Envie on Jun 24, 2016 9:24:24 GMT -5
I think it's more likely the dismissal of the issue is left un-resolved until next season unfortunately. I can't see Davos leaving because as Diablotion said, where would he go and who would he serve? They won't just write him off the show after his epic involvement with Snowbowl and serving Jon with his life and sword like that - he's a beloved character that either needs to have an honorable death or live to the very end. I would have said maybe Jon gets rid of Melisandre before, but I'm not sure now. He won't kill her, and if they are tying the Red God into the story arc as part of defeating the White Walkers, then she can't be banished.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 9:29:35 GMT -5
I think it's more likely the dismissal of the issue is left un-resolved until next season unfortunately. I can't see Davos leaving because as Diablotion said, where would he go and who would he serve? They won't just write him off the show after his epic involvement with Snowbowl and serving Jon with his life and sword like that - he's a beloved character that either needs to have an honorable death or live to the very end. I would have said maybe Jon gets rid of Melisandre before, but I'm not sure now. He won't kill her, and if they are tying the Red God into the story arc as part of defeating the White Walkers, then she can't be banished. I know some fans dismiss this scene or say that D&D have forgotten about it, but now that Melisandre is with the Starks and Arya is going back to Westeros, I'm pretty sure Arya and Mel will meet again as prophesied in this scene: I don't know if an Arya/Mel reunion would automatically mean the end of Melisandre, though. IMHO it would be pretty cool if Mel and the NK met face-to-face one day... But chances are this will remain wishful thinking. I'm unsure about Davos...
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Post by moiaf on Jun 24, 2016 10:31:34 GMT -5
I think it's more likely the dismissal of the issue is left un-resolved until next season unfortunately. I can't see Davos leaving because as Diablotion said, where would he go and who would he serve? They won't just write him off the show after his epic involvement with Snowbowl and serving Jon with his life and sword like that - he's a beloved character that either needs to have an honorable death or live to the very end. I would have said maybe Jon gets rid of Melisandre before, but I'm not sure now. He won't kill her, and if they are tying the Red God into the story arc as part of defeating the White Walkers, then she can't be banished. If the leaks are correct and Jon does nothing, that kind of bothers me. I can see some kind of reasoning for keeping her around but Davos has been very loyal and helpful to him in his victory, and he deserves to have Mel at least punish if not executed. It seems a little disloyal of Jon to me, but of course I don't know how it'll play out and it might make sense once I see it.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Jun 24, 2016 11:06:59 GMT -5
No word on Lord Manderly I think. Frikdoctor's predictions/spoilers are relatively unfinished so I'm pretty sure we'll see Manderly. They mentioned the Manderlys and White Harbor quite a few times.
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Post by Diablotion on Jun 24, 2016 11:26:47 GMT -5
My heart will break if we won't see house Manderly. Didn't one leak say that he will give the KitN speech?
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Jun 24, 2016 11:32:02 GMT -5
My heart will break if we won't see house Manderly. Didn't one leak say that he will give the KitN speech? He might. The casting call said he has a "stirring speech during which he unexpectedly shifts political allegiances." The Manderly remained neutral, so he's switching to the Starks.
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Post by Diablotion on Jun 24, 2016 11:33:26 GMT -5
My heart will break if we won't see house Manderly. Didn't one leak say that he will give the KitN speech? He might. The casting call said he has a "stirring speech during which he unexpectedly shifts political allegiances." The Manderly remained neutral, so he's switching to the Starks. That'd be great. The speech could have some elements from the Manderly speech from the books. He could explain why he wasn't able to come to Jon and Sansa sooner.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Jun 24, 2016 11:37:21 GMT -5
He might. The casting call said he has a "stirring speech during which he unexpectedly shifts political allegiances." The Manderly remained neutral, so he's switching to the Starks. That'd be great. The speech could have some elements from the Manderly speech from the books. He could explain why he wasn't able to come to Jon and Sansa sooner. I hope so and I'm guessing Lord Cerwyn will explain himself too. All of the Northern Lords are supposed to come to Winterfell as well as Royce.
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Post by Envie on Jun 24, 2016 13:04:07 GMT -5
I think it's more likely the dismissal of the issue is left un-resolved until next season unfortunately. I can't see Davos leaving because as Diablotion said, where would he go and who would he serve? They won't just write him off the show after his epic involvement with Snowbowl and serving Jon with his life and sword like that - he's a beloved character that either needs to have an honorable death or live to the very end. I would have said maybe Jon gets rid of Melisandre before, but I'm not sure now. He won't kill her, and if they are tying the Red God into the story arc as part of defeating the White Walkers, then she can't be banished. If the leaks are correct and Jon does nothing, that kind of bothers me. I can see some kind of reasoning for keeping her around but Davos has been very loyal and helpful to him in his victory, and he deserves to have Mel at least punish if not executed. It seems a little disloyal of Jon to me, but of course I don't know how it'll play out and it might make sense once I see it. His loyalties would be clearly divided in this case since Melisandre did bring him back to life so even if he doesn't buy into the Red God thing (he still believes in the Old Gods of the North is my guess) ... he would at least have a respect for the power Melisandre's been given. He asked her quite pointedly "What kind of God would do that?" and she said "The one we've got" which to me meant both of them are reflecting on the fact that these powers are not amazing miracles but rather, some sort of riddle to solve that currently doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Post by Envie on Jun 24, 2016 13:19:01 GMT -5
Reddit post regarding a spoiler from the costume designer about 6x10: https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/4pn55q/spoilers_everything_costume_designer_reveals/ At first I thought this might be Tommen again since I remembered a flash of someone putting a crown on him in the 6x10 preview while the High Sparrow was talking, but after watching it, I think that looks like the same Baratheon stag horn crown he had before. So the only other two people who might be getting a new crown would be Daenerys or Jon.
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Post by moiaf on Jun 24, 2016 13:25:45 GMT -5
Reddit post regarding a spoiler from the costume designer about 6x10: https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/4pn55q/spoilers_everything_costume_designer_reveals/ At first I thought this might be Tommen again since I remembered a flash of someone putting a crown on him in the 6x10 preview while the High Sparrow was talking, but after watching it, I think that looks like the same Baratheon stag horn crown he had before. So the only other two people who might be getting a new crown would be Daenerys or Jon. Ooh, it will be interesting to see Jon's crown. But you are right, Dany hasn't gotten a crown yet. Where is my Queen's crown?
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