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Post by moiaf on Jul 25, 2017 7:56:24 GMT -5
Ok mega-shippers, give it your best shot: What does Jon say to Daenerys after greeting her? (no script spoilers please) Hmmm...what does Jon say? I think he'll probably let her talk first. Dany will say something something and then ask him to bend the knee. I think Jon says no. There is probably some acknowledgement of the past. There kind of has to be now that the show is tying up lose ends. That might get a little contentious. Although, I doubt Dany would defend her father. I'm not sure but I don't think Rhaegar would come up, not yet at least. I think their first meeting will be a little frosty, that makes it more interesting when they start to warm up to one another.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 8:47:50 GMT -5
Me when Dany said He's quite a man and HIS Queen. and when Jon convinced Northern lords to see Queen Daenerys Only a King can convince her, saying Daenerys.
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Post by Envie on Jul 25, 2017 10:07:04 GMT -5
There is probably some acknowledgement of the past. There kind of has to be now that the show is tying up lose ends. That might get a little contentious. Although, I doubt Dany would defend her father. I'm not sure but I don't think Rhaegar would come up, not yet at least. Yeah I'm wondering about this bit too. I appreciated them having Sansa bring up the fact that their Grandfather Rickard was burned alive by King Aerys which I'm sure a lot of show fans forgot about or didn't remember from past mentions of it. Jaime did taunt Ned with that fact in justifying "justice" for killing Aerys. It wouldn't really be appropriate for Jon to say anything about Aerys is my thinking. Not the best topic to bring up when you're trying to ally with someone who was previously an enemy of your house! I honestly have no idea what Jon's going to say to Daenerys first which is why I asked the shippers here what they think.
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Post by Lils on Jul 25, 2017 11:03:03 GMT -5
Ok mega-shippers, give it your best shot: What does Jon say to Daenerys after greeting her? (no script spoilers please) Hmmm...what does Jon say? I think he'll probably let her talk first. Dany will say something something and then ask him to bend the knee. I think Jon says no. There is probably some acknowledgement of the past. There kind of has to be now that the show is tying up lose ends. That might get a little contentious. Although, I doubt Dany would defend her father. I'm not sure but I don't think Rhaegar would come up, not yet at least. I think their first meeting will be a little frosty, that makes it more interesting when they start to warm up to one another. I imagine she speaks first. There will be a long pause. Likely she will say something about how she's heard about him, there will be a mention of his father supporting Robert and how they're both different from their fathers. It'll be similar to Yara, but Jon will likely try to sidestep all of that and go straight into WWs.
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Post by Envie on Jul 25, 2017 11:12:34 GMT -5
I imagine she speaks first. There will be a long pause. Likely she will say something about how she's heard about him, there will be a mention of his father supporting Robert and how they're both different from their fathers. It'll be similar to Yara, but Jon will likely try to sidestep all of that and go straight into WWs. As much as I love parallels, I hope they don't use this one again. Jon is the only one to have a Father who wasn't a terrible Father. Ned supported Robert because his own Father and brother were burned alive by Aerys right there in the throne room! Dany needs to tread carefully around that issue and casually mentioning how she's not going to be like her Father could fall flat since it doesn't equally apply to Jon the way it did with Yara/Theon and Tyrion.
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Post by Lils on Jul 25, 2017 11:49:07 GMT -5
I imagine she speaks first. There will be a long pause. Likely she will say something about how she's heard about him, there will be a mention of his father supporting Robert and how they're both different from their fathers. It'll be similar to Yara, but Jon will likely try to sidestep all of that and go straight into WWs. As much as I love parallels, I hope they don't use this one again. Jon is the only one to have a Father who wasn't a terrible Father. Ned supported Robert because his own Father and brother were burned alive by Aerys right there in the throne room! Dany needs to tread carefully around that issue and casually mentioning how she's not going to be like her Father could fall flat since it doesn't equally apply to Jon the way it did with Yara/Theon and Tyrion. I'm hoping they won't either. I suspect though there will be some mention of the past, even if it is unwise on Dany's part. They aren't going to connect very well in this first meeting because they are both approaching this as rulers and they don't want to cede the higher ground. I think at the end of the episode is where they will be honest with each other. That's the meeting I'm looking forward to most. It won't have that same regal feel that their first meeting will have, which is good. I think they are both powerful leaders, but it's not who they are deep down. They have more personal, hidden qualities that others don't see. The ending scene will show that side of them.
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Post by Lovely Lyanna on Jul 25, 2017 13:13:22 GMT -5
Ok mega-shippers, give it your best shot: What does Jon say to Daenerys after greeting her? (no script spoilers please) Hmmm...what does Jon say? Damn, I finally found a woman prettier than me with better hair.
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Post by Lils on Jul 25, 2017 13:49:44 GMT -5
Hmmm...what does Jon say? Damn, I finally found a woman prettier than me with better hair. Yep. Hands down what should be said.
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Post by Balerion's Whiskers on Jul 25, 2017 14:43:08 GMT -5
I agree with everyone that the first meeting will be quite frosty. We see that Dany chose to meet Jon in her throne room with all of its strength...it was a power play and she's making sure she looks imposing.
Of course, she doesn't realize that Jon could care less. His throne is sitting behind his supper table.
It is like when Renly met Stannis before the battle that never happened. He wanted to make Stannis wait on him to show dominance. It is all in appearances.
I figure Missandi will introduce Dany with all of her titles and it will be something like ..."Hi, I'm Jon Snow" No, not really...I'm betting after her introduction, Davos announces him as KitN.
They're going to trade a couple of insults and she's going to demand he bend the knee...he's going to say just because she's a Targaryen she's not worthy of bending the knee ...wuups! (yeah, I think there's going to be some Targ bashing on his part...little does he know....) Tyrion will probably have to intercede and calm things down.
Then, they will get down to business and Jon will tell her about why they need to work together. There may be an uncomfortable reunion with Melisandre and Dany isn't going to appreciate burning children.
By the end of the episode, they will probably have a healthy appreciation for each other's accomplishments and a couple of sneaky sideways glances checking each other out. When Jon actually sees the dragons, he'll know that the North needs her resources...this could get interesting really quick.
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Post by Balerion's Whiskers on Jul 25, 2017 15:02:10 GMT -5
I actually think Jon and Dany will have a daughter together, who will be the next Queen of Westeros with Tyrion/Sansa acting as regent. I think it will be a boy. Maester Aemon telegraphed this when he was telling Jon who he was long, long ago:
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Post by Balerion's Whiskers on Jul 25, 2017 15:07:20 GMT -5
Oh, and I hope she's rendered speechless if the dragons like Jon. I see you Rhaegal!
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Jul 25, 2017 15:23:53 GMT -5
Decided to move this to the general thread moiaf since it won't refer to just one episode.
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Post by Envie on Jul 25, 2017 19:50:57 GMT -5
Of course, she doesn't realize that Jon could care less. His throne is sitting behind his supper table. I like this bit and it made me smile. Dany has never met a man who didn't want her for her titles and throne. She dresses up and sits there all upright on her throne, whether that was the one she had in Meereen or the one she has now, because she thinks she has to 'impress' people who come to see her and be "Queenly" when deep inside she despises it! Remember the "floppy ears" bit from the books? That was really what endeared me to Dany beyond the magical things and the dragons. She is just an ordinary girl underneath all of that who thinks she has to perform for her audience if she's to be respected. Jon Snow couldn't be further from that sort of audience than anyone and I look forward to seeing that hesitancy and maybe even confusion play out with Daenerys should they choose to go that route. I'd really like Jon's demeanor and solemn personality to throw her off guard!
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Post by thi targaryen on Jul 26, 2017 0:23:30 GMT -5
Ok mega-shippers, give it your best shot: What does Jon say to Daenerys after greeting her? (no script spoilers please) Hmmm...what does Jon say? I think he'll probably let her talk first. Dany will say something something and then ask him to bend the knee. I think Jon says no. There is probably some acknowledgement of the past. There kind of has to be now that the show is tying up lose ends. That might get a little contentious. Although, I doubt Dany would defend her father. I'm not sure but I don't think Rhaegar would come up, not yet at least. I think their first meeting will be a little frosty, that makes it more interesting when they start to warm up to one another. I think the first meet will have a little tension (of course!), but also i think they will be intrigued about each other at first sight..i mean..they way Jon is looking at Dany when he enters just speak volumes, i think! He already looks mesmerized for sure. Also, of course things from the past will come up..and also dany will ask him to bend the knee..they wil most likely have two scenes in this episode..so, the first when Dany is in the throne..and other outside of Dragonstone..(the one i assume Melisandre will observe them together). So, lots of good things coming
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Post by moiaf on Jul 26, 2017 7:51:28 GMT -5
Hmmm...what does Jon say? I think he'll probably let her talk first. Dany will say something something and then ask him to bend the knee. I think Jon says no. There is probably some acknowledgement of the past. There kind of has to be now that the show is tying up lose ends. That might get a little contentious. Although, I doubt Dany would defend her father. I'm not sure but I don't think Rhaegar would come up, not yet at least. I think their first meeting will be a little frosty, that makes it more interesting when they start to warm up to one another. I think the first meet will have a little tension (of course!), but also i think they will be intrigued about each other at first sight..i mean..they way Jon is looking at Dany when he enters just speak volumes, i think! He already looks mesmerized for sure. Also, of course things from the past will come up..and also dany will ask him to bend the knee..they wil most likely have two scenes in this episode..so, the first when Dany is in the throne..and other outside of Dragonstone..(the one i assume Melisandre will observe them together). So, lots of good things coming Yeah, I think there first meeting might be frosty but you're are probably right and they will be attracted to one another but it probably won't show much. I think their second meeting will go more smoothly although I don't think they'll be buddies. However, as the season progresses they'll get closer and closer, me things.
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