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Post by Envie on Jun 25, 2016 16:09:19 GMT -5
Ah I've been waiting for someone to put those photos together since the episode aired. It was so obvious and cool how similar they were. If Sansa/Littlefinger hadn't shown up, they'd have ended the same too. Thanks konradsmith!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 16:54:23 GMT -5
They must be destined to be together
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Post by ladystoneboobs on Jun 26, 2016 0:15:43 GMT -5
This is more repetition of numbers but anyways, Jon dodged 3 arrows from Ramsay with a shield, and before he took 3 arrows shot by Ygritte, and before that Robb was shot with 3 crossbow bolts at the Red Wedding. It's also very fitting Jon was using a Mormont shield since he fights with a Mormont sword.
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Post by sercreighton on Jun 29, 2016 16:24:29 GMT -5
Bran and Tommen. Both go out the window. One because of Jaime and one because of Cersei. Male female symbolism is inverted.
Jon and Dany parallel. The Warrior punishes those who believe themselves beyond Justice, the Mother rewards those who kneel before her.
Season 5, Dany beheads what's his face for an act of love (It was a stupid act but he did it because he loved her), Jon beheads Slynt over an act of hate.
Tyrion and Sansa, who were married so you have a very strong connection there in terms of plot. One starts becoming Jon's advisor though there is conflict, the other Becomes Dany's advisor and they become totes besties and even dumped Darrio as a team, cause that's what pals do.
Season 6, episode 9. The meeting of the enemies. Both Jon and Dany try to negotiate terms with their enemies to help prevent deaths. Jon wants Ramsey's men to know he would not fight for them and Greyworm points out to the soldiers that the Masters would never fight for them. It also works well because it is juxtaposed. Dany is defending her city and Jon is trying to take back his home. The slave soldiers are like "screw you guys I'm a goin home." While Ramsey's men fight for them. The knights of the Vale arrive to help, and the Dothraki charge in to help. Of course in Dany's case it was pretty much over when Drogon showed up.
Tyrion and Sansa were both prisoners, though Tyrion got the far better end of that parallel, Sansa is tied to Littlefinger and Tyrion to Varys.
There are a lot more but I would have to do a rewatch to get them exactly right. Oh the Jon and Dany assassination attempts. In both cases a King gets stabbed. Jon is revived by fire and his people thing he is a god and the Wildlings (Barbarians follow him) Dany also uses fire to revive herself, and the Dothraki think she is a god, and the barbarian hoard follows her. Because you know duh,
Dothraki BoBo: No shit she just took out all the Khals and walked out that fire like it was a day beach.
Dothraki Nubby Nuts: She's naked hehehehe.
Dothraki BoBo: Maybe she will do something like again, lets follow her.
Dothraki Nubby Nuts: I like boobies.
Dothraki BoBo: Just shut it and come along. Lets see what she does next. Hey she is leaving. Does this count as a vanishing act, cause I totally saw you ride away. You can't fool BoBo, I have seen David Blaine, he can levitate.
Nubby Nuts: Doctor says I wouldn't have so many nose bleeds if I would just keep my finger out of there.
BoBo: Would you just stop, that's gross. Your making us look bad. We are macho bad ass Dothraki known for our pony tails, eye liner and bells in our hair, now start acting like it. We totally got ditched, this is some serious bull shiiiiii OMG! What the hell is she riding? Oh man this is way better than David Blaine levitating, this is like some mind freak shit. I would like totally pay to this, I mean I would even like pay for premium cable to watch this.
Nubby Nuts: What happened to her horse?
BoBo: Better not to ask.
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Post by sercreighton on Jun 30, 2016 13:47:41 GMT -5
I got another one, though it's book and show combined. No spoilers from the books so it should be ok.
So Dany has a undead husband named Drogo who is tied to the sun (My Sun and Stars and also watching the sun) Dany has to kill him then burn the body with 3 Dragons eggs, and walks into the fire and comes out with 3 baby dragons.
Jon has to kill an undead Wight related to ice. He burns it, he walks out of the fire and is given Longclaw, dragonsteel. Later in Dance Longclaw will be show as a flaming sword and the dragons will be compared to a flaming sword. In both cases of the fires a Mormont is there watching.
That happened in both the show and the books.
The ice and fire symbolism is at an inverted.
On the show we also see Jon parallel Drogo her sun and stars. Drogo was the leader of a murdering raping barbarian hoard. He is betrayed and dies, and Dany has the woman trained in the arts of Asshai bring him to life. Jon who is leading a hoard of barbaric, raping and murdering raiders, is betrayed and murdered, and is brought back to life by a woman from Asshai.
This one is from the books and it's tricky. But Martin is very clever, Dany had her red comet right? A great big old giant comet and the resurrection of the dragons, and Dany's rebirth. Does anyone know who Tycho Brahe is? Well before Jon gets murdered a guy named Tycho Nestoris shows up, Tycho Brahe is a famed astronomer, he was famous for discovery of the great comet of 1577, it's sometimes called the Tycho comet. Now Nestoris comes from Nestorianism, which is about the resurrection and the separation of human and divine.
So Dany had her resurrection comet and Jon had his. Literal and symbolic.
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Post by moiaf on Jun 30, 2016 18:11:45 GMT -5
I really like this one, just one more great parallel in the growing list of them. Also note, the colors (warm & cool), the atmosphere (Jon alone & Dany with people) and of course the obvious male and female. They parallel but also contrast and compliment one another.
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Post by ladystoneboobs on Jul 2, 2016 23:45:24 GMT -5
Also, all three of the RW conspirators got fitting RW-style murders. Tywin was killed with a crossbow, a weapon which was used to kill many victims at the RW, Roose was surprise-stabbed just like he did to Robb, and Walder had his throat slit just like Catelyn and the Lady Frey Catelyn killed.
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Post by sercreighton on Jul 3, 2016 11:36:59 GMT -5
I really like this one, just one more great parallel in the growing list of them. Also note, the colors (warm & cool), the atmosphere (Jon alone & Dany with people) and of course the obvious male and female. They parallel but also contrast and compliment one another. That's a boarder line a promo, very nicely juxtaposed. There is also the idea that Dany used fire to destroy her enemies and fire (Mel a red priestess) was used to bring back Jon. Dany has that sort of standard Phoenix analogy the external fire symbolic rebirth we have seen with her before. While Jon is internal even in location, she's outside and he is inside.
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Post by sercreighton on Jul 3, 2016 11:39:01 GMT -5
Also, all three of the RW conspirators got fitting RW-style murders. Tywin was killed with a crossbow, a weapon which was used to kill many victims at the RW, Roose was surprise-stabbed just like he did to Robb, and Walder had his throat slit just like Catelyn and the Lady Frey Catelyn killed. Really nice catches, the promise me parallel went right over my head, and I forgot all about Ned. I mean not all about him, just that line.
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Post by moiaf on Jul 3, 2016 11:51:15 GMT -5
I really like this one, just one more great parallel in the growing list of them. Also note, the colors (warm & cool), the atmosphere (Jon alone & Dany with people) and of course the obvious male and female. They parallel but also contrast and compliment one another. That's a boarder line a promo, very nicely juxtaposed. There is also the idea that Dany used fire to destroy her enemies and fire (Mel a red priestess) was used to bring back Jon. Dany has that sort of standard Phoenix analogy the external fire symbolic rebirth we have seen with her before. While Jon is internal even in location, she's outside and he is inside. Complimentary counterpart, obvious and obscure. The continue to connect these two characters. I like the outside / inside observations.
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