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Post by konradsmith on Dec 6, 2017 17:00:14 GMT -5
There's not actually a new set at Ballintoy. Here's the same structure standing there years ago for reference. http://instagr.am/p/8yQ874xYGq But it's the Iron Islands harbour Theon landed at in s2 and was used again in the s6 shoot. So he'll arrive there early in s8 seemingly.
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Post by Basil on Dec 6, 2017 17:02:54 GMT -5
I know that there is a circejerk in this fandom that Alfie Allen is the most underrated actor on the show, but I really think that Peter Dinklage is the most underrated actor for years (in this fandom, not with GA). A group of people sharing a totally valid opinion that you disagree with = "circle jerk". Gotcha.
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Post by nikma on Dec 6, 2017 17:16:49 GMT -5
Circlejerk - An online community where a group of people form an echo chamber.
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Post by moiaf on Dec 6, 2017 17:20:28 GMT -5
It's a good idea if the necklace can do that. I was't sure about the powers of that necklace, Melisandre had taken that necklace off before and remained the same, but there could be some explanations as discussed in this article: www.bustle.com/articles/157427-game-of-thrones-melisandre-has-taken-off-her-necklace-before-so-why-didnt-we-see-her I didn't know if it was some sort of a life preserving necklace like you said or just changing her appearance, making her look young and beautiful. And one thing that comes to my mind is that she could resurrect a dead man just by a magical ritual, so why would she have to give her necklace away this time instead of doing the same ritual? But there can be explanations of course, perhaps that kind of a magic won't work anymore when it's needed and she will have to use the magic left in the necklace etc. If she would save someone's life by giving away that necklace and sacrificing herself, then I think the most likely candidates would be Arya and Dany. Dany could be a candidate because there is a prophecy which says that she may "see Drogo again", implying that she could die, when she bears a living child. I think it may be possible that Melisandre saves Dany's life too like she saved Jon. But it can be Arya too, because Melisandre specifically said that they would meet again. That scene was obviously important. She would meet again other people too but she didn't make a big deal out of those, afterall. It makes sense that she saw her own death then, when she looked at Arya's eyes. And there may be some foreshadowings in the books about Arya getting frozen to death. Jon once had joked that they would find Arya's frozen body when the spring came, and Needle would still be locked tight between her frozen fingers. This may be nothing, but there is also this hint in the chapter describing "the burning of Gods": "...the hand of the Stranger writhed and curled as the fingers blackened and fell away, one by one, reduced to so much glowing charcoal". Arya is "the Stranger", and it seems like this chapter, which may be foreshadowing the deaths of heroes that represent 7 Gods, also mentions her fingers getting frozen, or something similar (might be getting burned too, but "fingers falling away one by one" is more like getting frozen imho). So maybe Melisandre will save her life. But this is all speculation of course. Though Melisandre wasn't convinced she could bring back a dead person before she tried with Jon. Her bringing back Dany would add to the many Jonerys parallels ( moiaf, Envie What's your opinion on that?) We know Kinvara will return too. She will likely have an influential part in the fate of both Melisandre and Varys. Jon and Dany share many parallel but they also contrast each other and in this I think they contrast. Dany symbolizes motherhood, mothers as we know, bring life into the world. And so while Jon has symbolism’s of death with his resurrection, Dany symbolizes life. Also consider that Dany, just like the Red Priesteses, broght something that had been dead back to life. And in Dany’s case it was something that had been dead for at least a couple hundred years.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Dec 6, 2017 18:29:48 GMT -5
A group of people sharing a totally valid opinion that you disagree with = "circle jerk". Gotcha. Circlejerk - An online community where a group of people form an echo chamber. I think the fandom's thoughts on Dinklage are generally mixed. It depends on where you go though with the circlejerk. Here, some really like him and others think he's just okay. S2 is definitely his strongest imo and he does have good moments, but I think that Iwan, Liam, Kit, Alfie, Nikolaj were better than him especially in these past few seasons. That's not to say he was that much weaker, I thought S7 was an improvement for him over S6, but it's never really topped S2. And I'm not trying to criticize Peter either, his scene with Cersei in 7x07 was definitely one of his best from the past few seasons.
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Post by nikma on Dec 6, 2017 18:46:38 GMT -5
This forum is the best GoT forum. I don't think there is circlejerk here about anything. I'm speaking more about Reddit.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Dec 6, 2017 19:14:11 GMT -5
This forum is the best GoT forum. I don't think there is circlejerk here about anything. I'm speaking more about Reddit.Yeah, I could see that. And thank you GoT forums in general though are difficult because you have so many fans with a lot of different opinions, things are often taken out of context, there can be silly disagreements, they have their own perspective on characters, etc. I'm saying this in general, but I think it's just a matter of respecting each other and also understanding the other person's POV. It doesn't make any opinion wrong either, whether it's hype, criticism, etc. Sometimes though, you just got to back that shit up if that makes sense.
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Post by atargbyanothername on Dec 6, 2017 19:16:24 GMT -5
For some reason I think that Kinvara is a suspicious character. She doesn't exist in the books, and I didn't quite understand why she was necessary in the show because if she is just another red priestess that supports Dany and Jon, if she is not different than Melisandre, why couldn't Melisandre play Kinvara's part? Yes, Melisandre wasn't in Essos but Kinvara's interaction with Tyrion and Varys wasn't really necessary at the time. Melisandre could speak with them in season 7 when they all met in Dragonstone. The show keeps giving the show characters several characters' storylines in the books, but it somehow created a part for a second red priestess who doesn't exist in the books yet, and a part that could actually be played by Melisandre. It's somehow suspicious although it may be nothing. But maybe this is a character that will be introduced later in the books too, and she was necessary because her role would be different...can she be a dark priestess? Otherwise I don't know why she is necessary. I lost so much of my book memory, so I can't really comment on Kinvara having role in the books or not. For me, Kinvara provides a link between Mel and Varys who supported different sides for a long time and now they're supposed to work together. The Red God vs the Others. Fire vs Ice. Kinvara’s closest book counterpart is possibly a mash up of Benerro the High Priest of The Temple in Volantis and Moqorro, the representative he sends to Dany in Meereen (travels with Tyrion and Jorah, fished up by Vicky and gives him a sparkly new hand). It’s not an exact fit but probably closest. Not sure what this would mean in terms of any future plot though This forum is the best GoT forum. I don't think there is circlejerk here about anything. I'm speaking more about Reddit. Lol
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Post by nikma on Dec 6, 2017 19:30:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I could see that. And thank you GoT forums in general though are difficult because you have so many fans with a lot of different opinions, things are often taken out of context, there can be silly disagreements, they have their own perspective on characters, etc. I'm saying this in general, but I think it's just a matter of respecting each other and also understanding the other person's POV. It doesn't make any opinion wrong either, whether it's hype, criticism, etc. Sometimes though, you just got to back that shit up if that makes sense. Every fandom is toxic. This fandom is not an exception. Maybe it's even better than some. You can only imagine how hard it is to be fan od Michael Gambon's Dumbledore or director David Yates in Harry Potter fandom.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Dec 6, 2017 19:55:18 GMT -5
Yeah, I could see that. And thank you GoT forums in general though are difficult because you have so many fans with a lot of different opinions, things are often taken out of context, there can be silly disagreements, they have their own perspective on characters, etc. I'm saying this in general, but I think it's just a matter of respecting each other and also understanding the other person's POV. It doesn't make any opinion wrong either, whether it's hype, criticism, etc. Sometimes though, you just got to back that shit up if that makes sense. Every fandom is toxic. This fandom is not an exception. Maybe it's even better than some. You can only imagine how hard it is to be fan od Michael Gambon's Dumbledore or director David Yates in Harry Potter fandom. That's very true. But it's a great challenge adapting series and novels to screen because the love and passion for the source material are incredibly high. Also, you're imagining the world and its characters in your own head so someone else's take on it is always going to challenge that. In terms of Harry Potter, I'm curious if it will ever become a tv series sometime down the road, but that's another topic. Really with any adaptation, there's a lot of elements that go into it, book fans are where the root of your audience will come from, but then you also have to consider what will work on screen and how you can attract those who haven't read the novels.
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Post by nikma on Dec 6, 2017 20:05:15 GMT -5
That's very true. But it's a great challenge adapting series and novels to screen because the love and passion for the source material are incredibly high. Especially unfinished novels.
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Post by nikma on Dec 6, 2017 20:18:36 GMT -5
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13:34 Is this how the Night King's dragon will die? They said that Viserion's wound is important.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Dec 7, 2017 1:02:56 GMT -5
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Post by konradsmith on Dec 7, 2017 1:03:52 GMT -5
Any reason why it wouldn't be winter?
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Dec 7, 2017 1:07:17 GMT -5
Any reason why it wouldn't be winter? It could be January or February. If they're done filming in August, leaves 5/6 months for post-production so definitely possible.
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