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Post by Maesteress on Aug 30, 2017 21:39:22 GMT -5
I can never feel bad for Catelyn, for me, she's one of the most awful characters in the series I so rarely see this sentiment - but I whole heartedly agree. While I dearly love Michelle Fairley...from the very beginning Jon was my character. I've been ridiculously overprotective of him. In addition, as a mom, I was horrified of her treatment of him...and that was just the beginning for me. She was completely selfish while Jon has always been selfless. The stark (haha) contrast of their characters was slapping me in the face for years. I felt Lady Stoneheart was her true soul showing through. But enough of that. A few other catchy-up thoughts (gone for only a day and 10+ pages in my favorite thread to catch up on! 1) John Bradley is my spirit animal. I adore that man and he gives the BEST interviews. He is so astute and intuitive when it comes to this story - I think he loves it as much as the fans do. I'm going to cling to his words for the next year. 2) Zurik 23M deserves some sort of Emmy just for his compilations. Ridiculous how good they are. 3) I think I watched that "better version" Dany/Jon scene about 80 times. Pretty sure I'll watch it 80 more. I really need to clean my house, get a few things done for work and you know, exist in reality - but nah, I'd rather just repeat the same minute and ten seconds over and over and over and over again....
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Post by Lils on Aug 31, 2017 6:07:57 GMT -5
I can never feel bad for Catelyn, for me, she's one of the most awful characters in the series I so rarely see this sentiment - but I whole heartedly agree. While I dearly love Michelle Fairley...from the very beginning Jon was my character. I've been ridiculously overprotective of him. In addition, as a mom, I was horrified of her treatment of him...and that was just the beginning for me. She was completely selfish while Jon has always been selfless. The stark (haha) contrast of their characters was slapping me in the face for years. I felt Lady Stoneheart was her true soul showing through. But enough of that. A few other catchy-up thoughts (gone for only a day and 10+ pages in my favorite thread to catch up on! 1) John Bradley is my spirit animal. I adore that man and he gives the BEST interviews. He is so astute and intuitive when it comes to this story - I think he loves it as much as the fans do. I'm going to cling to his words for the next year. 2) Zurik 23M deserves some sort of Emmy just for his compilations. Ridiculous how good they are. 3) I think I watched that "better version" Dany/Jon scene about 80 times. Pretty sure I'll watch it 80 more. I really need to clean my house, get a few things done for work and you know, exist in reality - but nah, I'd rather just repeat the same minute and ten seconds over and over and over and over again....My day is always made better by watching that clip.
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Post by milyagaryen on Aug 31, 2017 7:48:14 GMT -5
So this is also on the "thinking about this too much" side of things, but I think it's interesting that they have the same costuming in their first scene and their last scene, just minus their "royal" accessories - e.g. Jon's neck plate thing and Dany's cloak & chain (well, minus everything, haha). More relevant to Dany since Jon basically wears the same thing all the time, but Dany has the same circular braids in both scenes too. There's a nice symmetry to it.
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Post by Lils on Aug 31, 2017 8:36:06 GMT -5
So this is also on the "thinking about this too much" side of things, but I think it's interesting that they have the same costuming in their first scene and their last scene, just minus their "royal" accessories - e.g. Jon's neck plate thing and Dany's cloak & chain (well, minus everything, haha). More relevant to Dany since Jon basically wears the same thing all the time, but Dany has the same circular braids in both scenes too. There's a nice symmetry to it. I do love that symmetry. Good catch. But does Jon ever really change that tunic?
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Post by sercreighton on Aug 31, 2017 9:14:57 GMT -5
Saw somewhere on tumblr earlier today that in the book, The World Of Ice and Fire, they had Art of Jon and Dany towards the end of the book. I never noticed that before and I looked today at my copy and there they are. I don't think any other characters from the books/show have any art in this book. This book came out in 2014 I believe. The signs were just always there for these two...... Sure and MoIaF knows this cause it's an area of focus between us, but there is on picture inbetween them, and I nagged Elio about this for a year. I got one thing about it, Martin picked the pictures. So inbetween Jon and Dany is the twins. Now the twins are not the first focus of the artwork it's what is between them that is, the Water Tower, where the twins meet.
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Post by Envie on Sept 1, 2017 7:06:20 GMT -5
Here's an interesting article put out by Vox on how many old-school ASOIAF fans put the clues together over the years and even though I don't really care for a few of these internet community leaders, I respect that they were honest about the early days of R+L=J and I think it's worth a read for those who especially only started following the story with the show: www.vox.com/culture/2017/8/30/16213394/r-l-j-game-of-thrones-fandom-oral-historyI didn't piece together R+L=J, which fueled my passion for the story, until I began searching the internet around 2005. I think AFFC was out then. I had already read the other books but hadn't gotten it yet. I knew something was up with Ned, the melancholy way he was always thinking back to his 'promise' but I couldn't quite put my finger on what it was at the time. You have to remember that back then, there was no reddit, twitter, or even facebook yet so the 'hivemind' of social media hadn't quite caught hold of the clues. Many have said "well it's just so obvious - all the clues are there!" but no, it's not really if you didn't have the internet's help. It only became really obvious once ADWD came out and then the show. Before that, it was just a collection of loosely formed theories and heated debate. I lurked on westeros.org for a couple of years off and on before ever posting there in 2011 and ADWD reignited the theory crafting passion. Once I saw others were supporting the longstanding theory, I finally became confident enough to start posting too. Those who came to ASOIAF once the show started have had a much easier time of it. The theories had been laid out, the clues were identified and all you had to do was go in and start connecting the dots for Jon and Daenerys to eventually get together once R+L=J became more obvious. I appreciate the people in the article who identified that and how difficult it was to find good information on the internet prior to westeros.org and other sites.
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Post by milyagaryen on Sept 1, 2017 8:19:33 GMT -5
Not sure if these belong here, but Kit and Emilia's Dolce & Gabbana ads are out: I think I like Kit's better, not loving the costuming and wig for Emilia's. Fingers crossed for a joint video next!
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Post by Maesteress on Sept 1, 2017 8:33:49 GMT -5
Yes, I'd like to see them coming from different ends of the crowd and meeting in the middle, please LOL Do we know if they did any joint ones? Or even joint print (photo shoots)?
We don't see Kit smile enough - it's so amazing when he does. Everything about him changes when he smiles. Goosebumps all over (swoon....)
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Post by Lils on Sept 1, 2017 8:41:38 GMT -5
Yes, I'd like to see them coming from different ends of the crowd and meeting in the middle, please LOL Do we know if they did any joint ones? Or even joint print (photo shoots)? We don't see Kit smile enough - it's so amazing when he does. Everything about him changes when he smiles. Goosebumps all over (swoon....) They really do need a joint one. Just slap it over boatsex or something.
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Post by milyagaryen on Sept 1, 2017 8:57:22 GMT -5
Yes, I'd like to see them coming from different ends of the crowd and meeting in the middle, please LOL Do we know if they did any joint ones? Or even joint print (photo shoots)? I don't think anything has been done together so far, these two ads were filmed a couple of weeks apart from each other, but I am hopeful for future campaigns!
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Post by milyagaryen on Sept 1, 2017 9:22:20 GMT -5
Here's an interesting article put out by Vox on how many old-school ASOIAF fans put the clues together over the years and even though I don't really care for a few of these internet community leaders, I respect that they were honest about the early days of R+L=J and I think it's worth a read for those who especially only started following the story with the show: www.vox.com/culture/2017/8/30/16213394/r-l-j-game-of-thrones-fandom-oral-historyI didn't piece together R+L=J, which fueled my passion for the story, until I began searching the internet around 2005. I think AFFC was out then. I had already read the other books but hadn't gotten it yet. I knew something was up with Ned, the melancholy way he was always thinking back to his 'promise' but I couldn't quite put my finger on what it was at the time. You have to remember that back then, there was no reddit, twitter, or even facebook yet so the 'hivemind' of social media hadn't quite caught hold of the clues. It's crazy the way some people pick these things up, I certainly would never have come up with this myself. To be honest I doubt if I would have any idea what most of the prophecies were about if it wasn't for reading other theories on the internet! I'm not very good at picking up on those clues.
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Post by Maesteress on Sept 1, 2017 9:26:36 GMT -5
They cast a lot of short people in that video LOL!!! Kit looks so tall.... I'm not sure I understand the song choice though - two Brits, for an Italian perfume, wanting to be American?
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