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Post by cosmos on Oct 4, 2017 9:05:34 GMT -5
Maybe we will have a time jump after all if Cersei is going to have longer hair.
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Post by moiaf on Oct 4, 2017 12:37:01 GMT -5
Maybe we will have a time jump after all if Cersei is going to have longer hair. I think there has to be some kind of time-jump. The length of the jump is up in the air.
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Post by Lady Sansa's Direwolf on Oct 4, 2017 17:05:25 GMT -5
Do we think the time jump will come with episode one, or perhaps episode three or four?
I don't want to jump in the first episode, I want to see Jon and Dany arriving at Winterfell, and all that. But once all the players are in place, a time jump would be great.
Remember - the first Long Night lasted twenty years.
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Post by belle on Oct 9, 2017 12:19:54 GMT -5
imo drogon will kill wight viserion in season 8. it will be a tragic parallel with drogo killing viserys
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Post by Envie on Oct 9, 2017 15:23:12 GMT -5
imo drogon will kill wight viserion in season 8. it will be a tragic parallel with drogo killing viserys I like this parallel, it will be epic to see dragon fighting dragon (and sad). I don't think people will feel as much for undead-Viserion the way they did when he died the first time though. That was surprisingly realistic and gut-punching. The second time he goes down will be more of a fist-pumping reaction from the audience. I doubt the Night King will die that way though ... I think he and Jon will face off (finally) and Jon will take him out. They've got 'history' of giving each other "I'm going to kill you" looks for several seasons now!
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Post by Lady Sansa's Direwolf on Oct 9, 2017 17:09:51 GMT -5
imo drogon will kill wight viserion in season 8. it will be a tragic parallel with drogo killing viserys I like this parallel, it will be epic to see dragon fighting dragon (and sad). I don't think people will feel as much for undead-Viserion the way they did when he died the first time though. That was surprisingly realistic and gut-punching. The second time he goes down will be more of a fist-pumping reaction from the audience. I doubt the Night King will die that way though ... I think he and Jon will face off (finally) and Jon will take him out. They've got 'history' of giving each other "I'm going to kill you" looks for several seasons now! I agree with this scenario 100%. While I think Rhaegal will be in play as well, Drogon is the big brother. He will be the one to strike first. Longclaw will have to go against the ice spear. Somewhere someone mentioned that the dragonglass in his chest has to be removed, but I have a feeling Valyrian steel will work just fine, no matter how he slices it. Besides, Benjen was killed by the wights saving Jon, so I dismiss the dragonglass theory. Am I the only one who doesn't want Jon to be a dragon rider? Jon is a hero. He does his best work on the ground. If he flies Rhaegal, the killing transfer to the dragon, and takes the best swordsman in the North out of the equation.
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Post by Envie on Oct 9, 2017 17:18:46 GMT -5
Am I the only one who doesn't want Jon to be a dragon rider? Jon is a hero. He does his best work on the ground. If he flies Rhaegal, the killing transfer to the dragon, and takes the best swordsman in the North out of the equation. No, you're not the only one. I don't see Jon Snow being the dragon warrior Daenerys is at all, and it would definitely ruin the fact that his swordsmanship has become his signature 'magical' ability (along with coming back from the dead) ... so no, I don't think Jon will fight with Rhaegal even if he does end up riding him. I think with the nice parallel belle made with Drogon killing Viserion, it might just knock the Night King off of him when he goes down and then Jon Snow finishes him off with Longclaw. This way, both Jon and Daenerys would be working together to take him out. Together.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Oct 9, 2017 17:27:04 GMT -5
If Jon rides a dragon I will dislocate my eyeballs from rolling them so hard.
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Post by laurya on Oct 9, 2017 17:41:43 GMT -5
Longclaw will have to go against the ice spear. Somewhere someone mentioned that the dragonglass in his chest has to be removed, but I have a feeling Valyrian steel will work just fine, no matter how he slices it. Besides, Benjen was killed by the wights saving Jon, so I dismiss the dragonglass theory. That was me. Excuse me (it's late night here ), but how does Benjen being killed rule out that theory?
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Post by belle on Oct 9, 2017 17:46:29 GMT -5
If Jon rides a dragon I will dislocate my eyeballs from rolling them so hard. My thoughts exactly, I'm sick of Jon being such a perfect angelic speshul snowflake
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Post by Lady Sansa's Direwolf on Oct 9, 2017 18:41:35 GMT -5
Longclaw will have to go against the ice spear. Somewhere someone mentioned that the dragonglass in his chest has to be removed, but I have a feeling Valyrian steel will work just fine, no matter how he slices it. Besides, Benjen was killed by the wights saving Jon, so I dismiss the dragonglass theory. That was me. Excuse me (it's late night here ), but how does Benjen being killed rule out that theory? Benjen was swarmed by wights. I doubt they paused to take dragonglass out of his chest before ripping him to shreds. Also, we never heard anything from the CotF to Bran if that was the answer to killing the NK. I really think the Valyrian Steel will take the NK out, as he was a ordinary man before the CotF turned him, if indeed this is the same man they created so long ago. I'm not saying it isn't part of the final solution, it just doesn't ring true with me.
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Post by atargbyanothername on Oct 11, 2017 19:06:00 GMT -5
That was me. Excuse me (it's late night here ), but how does Benjen being killed rule out that theory? Benjen was swarmed by wights. I doubt they paused to take dragonglass out of his chest before ripping him to shreds. Also, we never heard anything from the CotF to Bran if that was the answer to killing the NK. I really think the Valyrian Steel will take the NK out, as he was a ordinary man before the CotF turned him, if indeed this is the same man they created so long ago. I'm not saying it isn't part of the final solution, it just doesn't ring true with me. Did Benjen have dragonglass in him? I didn't remember that being said, I thought it was simply the Children/Bloodraven were responsible. I could well be mistaken though, I don't actually remember the scene with a Bran and a Benjen too well
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Post by Envie on Oct 11, 2017 20:13:10 GMT -5
Benjen was swarmed by wights. I doubt they paused to take dragonglass out of his chest before ripping him to shreds. Also, we never heard anything from the CotF to Bran if that was the answer to killing the NK. I really think the Valyrian Steel will take the NK out, as he was a ordinary man before the CotF turned him, if indeed this is the same man they created so long ago. I'm not saying it isn't part of the final solution, it just doesn't ring true with me. Did Benjen have dragonglass in him? I didn't remember that being said, I thought it was simply the Children/Bloodraven were responsible. I could well be mistaken though, I don't actually remember the scene with a Bran and a Benjen too well Benjen: "A White Walker stabbed me in the gut with a sword of ice. Left me there to die. To turn. The Children found me. Stopped the walker's magic from taking hold."Bran: "How?" Benjen: "The same way they made the walkers in the first place. You saw it yourself." Bran: "Dragonglass. A shard of dragonglass plunged into your heart." Benjen: "You are the Three Eyed Raven now."Bran: "I didn't have time to learn, I can't control anything." Benjen: "You must learn to control it. Before the Night King comes. One way, or another, he will find his way to the world of men. When he does, you will be there waiting for him. And you will be ready."--- It was this scene which convinced me Bran has to play some important role in the ending. Something he's going to see in his visions will give him the information or power to defeat the Night King or at least be able to tell the others how to do it. Bran becoming the three eyed raven had to be for a bigger reason than just finding out Jon Snow's real heritage.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 9:21:33 GMT -5
I've decided I want to go leak-free this time. I'll read filming-spoilers though, because I'm not that strong. But I don't want to know every little detail.
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Post by Envie on Oct 12, 2017 11:50:07 GMT -5
I've decided I want to go leak-free this time. I'll read filming-spoilers though, because I'm not that strong. But I don't want to know every little detail. Welcome to our little unsullied club! I definitely need to read filming spoilers. WotW is my new best friend (checked daily) because I trust them to cover the most important filming bits without outright spoiling the fun of speculation. We will survive the long night together!
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