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Post by moiaf on Oct 16, 2017 9:48:07 GMT -5
I've decided I want to go leak-free this time. I'll read filming-spoilers though, because I'm not that strong. But I don't want to know every little detail. I've decided I want to go leak-free this time. I'll read filming-spoilers though, because I'm not that strong. But I don't want to know every little detail. Welcome to our little unsullied club! I definitely need to read filming spoilers. WotW is my new best friend (checked daily) because I trust them to cover the most important filming bits without outright spoiling the fun of speculation. We will survive the long night together! It's good more people are joining the club. That way we can speculate without it being the same three people just talking in circles. I wish last season I had stuck with filming spoilers, I think I would have enjoyed the season more. Don't get me wrong, i liked season 7 but there were certain things that underwhelmed me because I knew they were coming.
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Post by izzue on Jun 3, 2018 21:43:55 GMT -5
Just discovered this thread -- I'm so averse to spoilers that I have previously avoided this whole S8 section, but YAY!!! Thanks, moiaf , for creating this one!!! It's late now and I need to sign off, but I'm so excited -- I have 18 pages of posts in this thread to come back to later. Wow! Fantastic!
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Post by moiaf on Jun 4, 2018 6:47:37 GMT -5
Just discovered this thread -- I'm so averse to spoilers that I have previously avoided this whole S8 section, but YAY!!! Thanks, moiaf , for creating this one!!! It's late now and I need to sign off, but I'm so excited -- I have 18 pages of posts in this thread to come back to later. Wow! Fantastic! I've been keeping pretty clear of spoilers, some trickle in through social media but it's been pretty quiet which I'm really pleased with. Last year I over indulged, I don't want to do the same for the last season. Haven't speculated in a while, I think I need to re-read what I already wrote.
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Post by izzue on Jun 6, 2018 11:51:18 GMT -5
Haven't speculated in a while, I think I need to re-read what I already wrote. I'm not surprised! I'll tell you what really frightens me ... sometimes I can't even remember the name of a fairly significant character from the books, which I thought I'd never forget as long as I lived! Time for a reread, I'm sure. Many details of AFFC and ADWD are lost to me, because I only read them once, and that was 'way back in 2011! I do want to reread, but I think I'll finish the HBO series first (and hopefully locate some more info from/about Martin to make me think he IS going to come out with TWOW, after all).
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Post by moiaf on Jun 29, 2018 10:31:39 GMT -5
Haven't speculated in a while, I think I need to re-read what I already wrote. I'm not surprised! I'll tell you what really frightens me ... sometimes I can't even remember the name of a fairly significant character from the books, which I thought I'd never forget as long as I lived! Time for a reread, I'm sure. Many details of AFFC and ADWD are lost to me, because I only read them once, and that was 'way back in 2011! I do want to reread, but I think I'll finish the HBO series first (and hopefully locate some more info from/about Martin to make me think he IS going to come out with TWOW, after all). I've found that if you're not constantly talking about it and involved in the fandom you do begin to forget details you thought you'd never forget. Even things I've discussed multiple times have become bury, if you don't use it, you lose it, I suppose. I do think, like you, that we'll probably see TWOW once the series is over. For whatever reason he decided to wait, oh well.
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Post by izzue on Sept 29, 2018 22:31:11 GMT -5
I really don't want Jon to ride a dragon. He's a soldier who's always on the ground with the rest of his men. It would just feel weird to me. I actually kind of agree with this in that Jon's real abilities have always been on the ground with a sword in his hand (and wow is he good). I could just see them going with him riding Rhaegal though because of his Targaryen blood and the name. Maybe Rhaegal just taxis him somewhere and he leaps off to fight on the ground. But now that the Night King is on Viserion, we have to assume he's not going to stand around on the ground as much anymore so whoever takes him out is probably going to have to do so from dragon back. Right -- I had not thought of this!
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Post by izzue on Sept 29, 2018 22:39:16 GMT -5
- Arya takes Littlefinger's face to use in killing Cersei. They get into Cersei's presence during the battle for King's Landing.- Cersei descends further into madness locked in the Red Keep as the snows deepen and the riots in the street are controlled by the Golden Company. - Tyrion and Sansa are there watching when Cersei dies.- Theon dies killing Euron to free Yara. Yara takes command of the Iron Born and turns against Cersei, locking in the blockade of KL. - Jamie and Edmure join forces and take a small host from the Riverlands North to help against the WWs. - Cleganebowl!- The last battle against the NK and WW will happen outside the walls of Wintefell.- Sam and Bran tell Jon and Dany alone they are related. Sworn to secrecy Jon pulls into Emo Jon until he finds out Dany is pregnant. - Bran attempts to warg Viserion in order to throw the NK off. Drogon and Rhaegal are forced to kill their brother, and are wounded themselves. - Brienne and Jamie fight side by side, defending the North with the swords made from Ice. - Jorah falls defending Jon, Dany is by his side as he dies. - Jon kills the NK in single combat, in the Old Way. When the NK dies, the army falls dead around him.- Leaving a token force in the North, the rest of Westeros heads south to deal with Cersei. I like these predictions, but have bolded the ones I'm really crossing my fingers for!
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Post by izzue on Sept 29, 2018 22:42:20 GMT -5
Personally I hate the idea that the solution to the WW problem is just killing the NK in a battle with every White Walker and wight falling when the big bad himself is killed by Jon. It feels cheap. Perfect image!
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Post by izzue on Sept 29, 2018 22:56:05 GMT -5
I think where we are going to see a change is that the NK, as bad as he is, won't be the final bad guy. I think in the end the final bad guy might be Cersei and Euron, still trying to hold on to power as the whole world is trying to hold on to life. Showing that no matter what, people are people, and some will take advantage of any situation no matter how dire to take and maintain power. NOTE: I was trying to do a "quick quote" of the above post by moiaf, and somehow I ended up deleting it from moiaf's post. Don't know how that happened, but tried several times to "put it back" -- couldn't. Sorry, moiaf! My goal was to bold it and comment how much I like this scenario.
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Post by moiaf on Oct 1, 2018 11:18:06 GMT -5
I think where we are going to see a change is that the NK, as bad as he is, won't be the final bad guy. I think in the end the final bad guy might be Cersei and Euron, still trying to hold on to power as the whole world is trying to hold on to life. Showing that no matter what, people are people, and some will take advantage of any situation no matter how dire to take and maintain power. NOTE: I was trying to do a "quick quote" of the above post by moiaf, and somehow I ended up deleting it from moiaf's post. Don't know how that happened, but tried several times to "put it back" -- couldn't. Sorry, moiaf! My goal was to bold it and comment how much I like this scenario. The original is still there so it's all good.
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Post by breakfest on Nov 13, 2018 14:33:52 GMT -5
I should probably post in this thread instead of the filming spoilers thread.
Hopefully there will be stuff to talk about soon. Don't expect a proper trailer till January/February though.
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Post by mandzipop on Feb 23, 2019 7:58:46 GMT -5
Completely random, but I'm just doing a rewatch. Never picked up on it before but during the bath scene with Viserys, Doreah says she has seen three things,
1) a man from asshai with a dragonglass dagger.
2) a man who can change his face like changing clothes.
3) a pirate who wears his weight in gold and has coloured silk sails.
These could be a number of things, but I'm wondering if they're linked. Could the dagger be the catspaw dagger? If it is, I can see a link between 1 & 2 with Arya. She can change faces and has the dagger. If so, what is the third part about? Is it relating to Euron and the Golden Company? It could be Salladhor Saan, but I don't think he is going to feature again. I wonder if Arya kills Euron, takes on his face and kills Cersei.
So my prediction, based on Doreah's words are Arya takes Euron's face and uses it to kill someone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 8:03:51 GMT -5
Completely random, but I'm just doing a rewatch. Never picked up on it before but during the bath scene with Viserys, Doreah says she has seen three things,
1) a man from asshai with a dragonglass dagger.
2) a man who can change his face like changing clothes.
3) a pirate who wears his weight in gold and has coloured silk sails.
These could be a number of things, but I'm wondering if they're linked. Could the dagger be the catspaw dagger? If it is, I can see a link between 1 & 2 with Arya. She can change faces and has the dagger. If so, what is the third part about? Is it relating to Euron and the Golden Company? It could be Salladhor Saan, but I don't think he is going to feature again. I wonder if Arya kills Euron, takes on his face and kills Cersei.
So my prediction, based on Doreah's words are Arya takes Euron's face and uses it to kill someone.
Littlefinger's dagger isn't dragonglass. It's valyrian steel with a dragonbone hilt.
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Post by mandzipop on Feb 23, 2019 8:54:01 GMT -5
Completely random, but I'm just doing a rewatch. Never picked up on it before but during the bath scene with Viserys, Doreah says she has seen three things,
1) a man from asshai with a dragonglass dagger.
2) a man who can change his face like changing clothes.
3) a pirate who wears his weight in gold and has coloured silk sails.
These could be a number of things, but I'm wondering if they're linked. Could the dagger be the catspaw dagger? If it is, I can see a link between 1 & 2 with Arya. She can change faces and has the dagger. If so, what is the third part about? Is it relating to Euron and the Golden Company? It could be Salladhor Saan, but I don't think he is going to feature again. I wonder if Arya kills Euron, takes on his face and kills Cersei.
So my prediction, based on Doreah's words are Arya takes Euron's face and uses it to kill someone.
Littlefinger's dagger isn't dragonglass. It's valyrian steel with a dragonbone hilt. I know that, but I wonder if it is symbolic of the dagger. How would a whore have known she had seen a Faceless Man? Would they have revealed a change of face in front of her? I doubt it. This is why I think the dagger is symbolic. I also think the pirate is Euron. Not because he wears his weight in gold, but because he is seeking out the Golden Company. The links might be tenuous, but so is a lot of foreshadowing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 15:31:53 GMT -5
I don't think NK will be killed via combat or either by a dragon. We already know no type of fire can harm him, even dragonfire. Look at 7x06 he just walked through the dragonfire on the ground like it was nothing. Jon killing him in combat is a lazy way but then again who knows with D
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Dany and Drogon will fight NK 100%, Jon will fight him too but in combat.. that was foreshadowed at Hardhome, Beyond the Wall. Staring each other down. Dany with Drogon IMO will kill Viserion eventually. It's been kind of hinted upon when Drogo protected Dany, killed Viserys in Vaes Dothrak with molten gold. A metaphor of Dany and Drogon killing Viserion. NK, in the end, will be either killed in some other way or not killed at all. Part of the bittersweet ending. Jon and Dany will fight him, has to happen.
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