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Post by charliexcx on May 20, 2018 10:48:17 GMT -5
We need to get this thread popping again so I've been wondering what the ending will bring for our two favorite Targs. I think it's accepted that Daenerys will have a child. But the cast have been saying the ending is unexpected. What does this mean? Does it have to do with Jon & Dany? So many questions I have.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 10:50:48 GMT -5
Emilia did a recent interview talking about how they were looking at tall thin blonde actresses to play Daenerys, don't think this is the first time shes mentioned this. Anyway I don't remember Daenerys being described as tall but I do remember her being described as thin. I'm glad she got the part because I can't imagine a tall actress towering over Kit lol. Kit & Emilia compliment each other height & looks wise. Can't see it any other way. Hmm...not sure what she’s talking about tbh. Tazmin Merchant played Daenerys in the original pilot, and she’s only a couple inches taller than Emilia.
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Post by charliexcx on May 20, 2018 11:17:01 GMT -5
Speaking of Tazmin I wonder if we will ever find out why she left the show.
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Post by Envie on May 20, 2018 16:35:56 GMT -5
Speaking of Tazmin I wonder if we will ever find out why she left the show. Has there ever been photos released of her from the pilot? I'd be curious to see what she looked like as Daenerys. I've seen her in other things (Tudors and Salem).
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Post by moiaf on May 21, 2018 7:50:49 GMT -5
Emilia did a recent interview talking about how they were looking at tall thin blonde actresses to play Daenerys, don't think this is the first time shes mentioned this. Anyway I don't remember Daenerys being described as tall but I do remember her being described as thin. I'm glad she got the part because I can't imagine a tall actress towering over Kit lol. Kit & Emilia compliment each other height & looks wise. Can't see it any other way. Quite the opposite, in the books she's described as short and slender (petite). So, I don't know what exactly she was referring too. Also, I believe Kit was cast first, I'm not sure how that would have look as he's pretty short himself.
We need to get this thread popping again so I've been wondering what the ending will bring for our two favorite Targs. I think it's accepted that Daenerys will have a child. But the cast have been saying the ending is unexpected. What does this mean? Does it have to do with Jon & Dany? So many questions I have. I'm not sure what exactly they're getting at. I mean, the unexpected can be many things that are not necessarily or directly connected to Jon or Dany.
Although, they might be referring to the child. We all know it's coming but I think a lot of people will be shocked by the pregnancy because they haven't picked up on the clues or simply refuse to believe the show would "go there" given Jon and Dany being related. I've already encountered a couple of fans who think that way.
Speaking of Tazmin I wonder if we will ever find out why she left the show. Has there ever been photos released of her from the pilot? I'd be curious to see what she looked like as Daenerys. I've seen her in other things (Tudors and Salem). Tazmin filmed an entire episode as Daenerys )the original pilot) but there has never been anything released from it. D&D said it was terrible episode and that's why they had to re-shoot it. That's when they cast Emilia because supposedly Tazmin wasn't available or couldn't commit.
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Post by charliexcx on May 21, 2018 16:53:16 GMT -5
I just read something on twitter a theory about them returning to the dragon pit. Very interesting
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Post by moiaf on May 22, 2018 11:10:46 GMT -5
I just read something on twitter a theory about them returning to the dragon pit. Very interesting There has been some filming news. Very light spoiler: They have returned there, however, Emilia was not part of the filming as she was promoting Solo. That's not to say they can't return there later but who knows.
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Post by cosmos on May 22, 2018 15:15:36 GMT -5
I have this ridiculous and preposterous theory that Dany is going to give birth in the Dragonpit in the middle of the Battle of King's Landing. It is the perfect counterpart for her affirmation last season that the Pit was the beginning of the end for her family. She saves House Targaryen from extinction on the same place where the dragons died out.
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Post by sercreighton on May 22, 2018 16:03:18 GMT -5
I know what Emila is talking about. I don't know if people remember and it is pretty much the typical internet trolls who need me to find them and beat the snot out of them. But in season 1 Emilia got attacked pretty hard, not so much for her height but people were calling her fat and fat ass and making fun of her body.
She's mentioned it off handed a few times and remember seeing some of it. Personally I always thought she had nice little figure and beautiful face, great eyes, lips, cheek bones, skin. I don't know I always thought she was attractive. But yeah people went after her assets early on. If you notice in later seasons she got real skinny for a couple years, I mean like sub 100 pounds. I actually got a little concerned, but the last couple of years she filled out a little more.
Then you know all model shoots ask her to drop weight and stuff like that. But yeah Emilia has natural curves particularly her hips and bum, and she has a little of that Hollywood weight fear things you see with actresses. I think she is the right build for Dany, short, athletic. Dany is not suppose to have a frail build, tiny yes but always said she was strong not frail.
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Post by Envie on May 22, 2018 16:12:25 GMT -5
Nicely said sercreighton ! I was so mad when I saw people criticizing her about her 'weight' ... I mean she's this petite little thing that hardly weighs much at all but because she isn't stick thin she's somehow fat?! This is part of the weird modern culture that thinks a beautiful female body shape is that of a 12-year-old girl with no curves, which is somewhat disturbing to be honest. What does that say about the media's portrayal of women? Emilia is curvy which is what a beautiful full-grown woman's body should look like!
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Post by archanabrownwalker on May 22, 2018 18:40:11 GMT -5
I know what Emila is talking about. I don't know if people remember and it is pretty much the typical internet trolls who need me to find them and beat the snot out of them. But in season 1 Emilia got attacked pretty hard, not so much for her height but people were calling her fat and fat ass and making fun of her body.She's mentioned it off handed a few times and remember seeing some of it. Personally I always thought she had nice little figure and beautiful face, great eyes, lips, cheek bones, skin. I don't know I always thought she was attractive. But yeah people went after her assets early on. If you notice in later seasons she got real skinny for a couple years, I mean like sub 100 pounds. I actually got a little concerned, but the last couple of years she filled out a little more. Then you know all model shoots ask her to drop weight and stuff like that. But yeah Emilia has natural curves particularly her hips and bum, and she has a little of that Hollywood weight fear things you see with actresses. I think she is the right build for Dany, short, athletic. Dany is not suppose to have a frail build, tiny yes but always said she was strong not frail. Her height is perfect for the role. Dany is not supposed to be physically imposing. A tall actress would have been a miscast. As for calling her fat, i would like to see six pack abs on the trolls who call her names. I am sure they are all ripped and smoking hot. By the way, i do not see her as even mildly overweight. She is perfect just the way she is.
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Post by sercreighton on May 22, 2018 18:58:18 GMT -5
Nicely said sercreighton ! I was so mad when I saw people criticizing her about her 'weight' ... I mean she's this petite little thing that hardly weighs much at all but because she isn't stick thin she's somehow fat?! This is part of the weird modern culture that thinks a beautiful female body shape is that of a 12-year-old girl with no curves, which is somewhat disturbing to be honest. What does that say about the media's portrayal of women? Emilia is curvy which is what a beautiful full-grown woman's body should look like! Well it's nothing new to Hollywood, I know that Marilyn Monroe was always struggling with her weight. Thing is she was naturally curvy but they always wanted her slimmer. Personally I never got it, but Hollywood beats that into the heads of women. Been doing it with men more lately too. I mean look Jackmen and Hemsworth workout like crazy for 6 months just to do a couple of shirtless scene. It's not natural to be 230 pounds and have 4% body fat and a 29 inch waist. It's a ton of stress on the body and you can only maintain it for a couple weeks at best usually. Shit starts breaking down real quick. thrones has been around for 8 years, 8 1/2 for the actors. And in that time there has been a large change in how women are treated most notably in the last year. So even for Emilia the latest trend towards women is new for her and for everyone else there. It never should of come to this. It shouldn't need to be explained, and the bad part is we all knew, it's been talked about as far back as I can remember. The casting couch, we all know about it, we all knew it was always about the next pretty face, we all knew they didn't make the same money as the guys, we know they focus on male roles. We know most producers are men and that a lot of them abuse their power. Nothing new, and nothing was done. Then the worst possible example of Hollywood popped up about 10 years ago. The Kardashians, totally self absorbed, shallow, superficial, plastic. Yeah they made money but good lord what kind of example are you setting. I mean the plastic surgery is practically cartoonish. You know what's really important in life? A giant fake ass, the doors this will open for you. I mean it's real, I got it from doing squats, I got no muscle in my legs but yeah squats. Emilia has some of that body issue bs that Hollywood creates, and all I usually think is you're nuts, you're stunning I will Marry you today to prove it. Yes I would marry a total stranger if it was her. Like that, done, we could both look at her Drogo collection and go seriously how is he a real person. Sorry, better get back on topic. Or else I end up with another new thread. Dragon Pit, I call total BS on it. Something went on there, but it's a rather odd mix of who did and didn't film. The thought from the quote MoIaF posted makes sense from the Comming full circle POV. But I feel think D&D love going to Spain as do the actors. They also love a good practical effects set on location. The place is gorgeous, so were the Water Gardens, and that had a decent amount of cast members and it was not all that important. But it was in Spain. Weather Kit and Emilia filmed there is up to speculation. But the current line of thought is not passing the smell test for me. Also the shoot was really short. If Dany is not pregnant I will be shocked, it's been expected by some for years. I have come to expect it, the show beat us over the head with it. Though they bet us over the head with an arrow as well and then offed Viserion with a bullshit ice missile that had a guidance system, and a armor piercing tungsten warhead. The forging of Lightbringer. The first blade was tempered in water and broke. Viserion died via ice and water. The second blade was tempered in the blood of a Lion and broke. The Lannisters hold KL. And the third attempt is Drogon. In the books Rhaegal is associated with water and storms and Viserion with Lions. Pale Lions follow Dany around a bit. It can be debated which characters symbolize what. Night King can be a sun, a moon, a lion, a falcon, ice. Greyjoys and water and rebirth, which they sort of call undead. Lannisters, you know Cersei isn't just some lion of Lannister. She is by all rights the Storm, Robert was her legal husband, she was married to the Stormlord. The blue eyed stormlord. The banner above KL is suppose to have both Lion and Stag as it does in the books. Joffs crown had antlers. She was also tied to the rose by marriage. Okay she blew up the Rose but it was there briefly. Jon and Dany, it is a tough call because the show can pretty much do what it wants here, cause it's over. If the Night King goes down that's all that matters really. The world continues with good and bad rulers. The person most likely to die for me is Tyrion but they could off the whole cast and go well it's bitter cause everyone dies and it sweet cause the Night King was defeated. I assume D&D will stretch out the big troop movment. So Dany and Jon have some time together. Even though we won't see it they may take a month or so to move her Army north. I wish they would show White Harbor, but it looks like it will go from boat to ship. Maybe we don't even see the arrival. Feel like we get some serious teleporting in season 8. Dany may be pregnant upon her arrival. Then Bran does what he does best and causes a problem for incestious relationships, talk about full circle. Maybe Jon shoves the wheel chair down some stairs. That kids been nothing but trouble. Can't keep his nose out of everybody's buisness and now he is really snooping. Jon will not be happy with Bloodraven. Bran is going to get his nose all up in their buisness. Stick his ass in a catapult and send him back beyond the wall. They are going to stretch out what happens between those two till the very end. Season 8 will probably be called a time for angst. okay so that's a rant on Holywwods treatment of women, a rant on the Dragon pit, a rant on the ice missile, a rant on BranRaven, a discussion on symbolism, a discussion where I think they start Jon and Dany off, a shot at angst and I think I covered all my bases. Yeah I am good for the week. Oh one last thing, if the ending is unexpected how would Jon or Dany dying be unexpected they are 1 and 1a on the who dies list. Cersei makes a tie for 1st. Jaime join the club. There are pretty high expectations for death. Maybe the Night King lives and something weird happens there. Maybe Dany flies off with him or something crazy like that. okay that's it, that's the equivalent of a few days of posting there, I'm good.
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Post by sercreighton on May 22, 2018 19:26:35 GMT -5
I know what Emila is talking about. I don't know if people remember and it is pretty much the typical internet trolls who need me to find them and beat the snot out of them. But in season 1 Emilia got attacked pretty hard, not so much for her height but people were calling her fat and fat ass and making fun of her body.She's mentioned it off handed a few times and remember seeing some of it. Personally I always thought she had nice little figure and beautiful face, great eyes, lips, cheek bones, skin. I don't know I always thought she was attractive. But yeah people went after her assets early on. If you notice in later seasons she got real skinny for a couple years, I mean like sub 100 pounds. I actually got a little concerned, but the last couple of years she filled out a little more. Then you know all model shoots ask her to drop weight and stuff like that. But yeah Emilia has natural curves particularly her hips and bum, and she has a little of that Hollywood weight fear things you see with actresses. I think she is the right build for Dany, short, athletic. Dany is not suppose to have a frail build, tiny yes but always said she was strong not frail. Her height is perfect for the role. Dany is not supposed to be physically imposing. A tall actress would have been a miscast. As for calling her fat, i would like to see six pack abs on the trolls who call her names. I am sure they are all ripped and smoking hot. By the way, i do not see her as even mildly overweight. She is perfect just the way she is. You know there is only one way to deal with bullies. I ain't talking about all this millennials express your feelings, safe space, cuddle a kitten bullshit. We knew how to deal with bullies in the 80's. You got a bully problem, there is only one answer, she's gotta take Karate. I ain't talking none of that wax on wax off bullshit either, I am talking about a true legend taught by Sensei John the Cobra Lawrence. Strike first Strike hard No Mercy!
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Post by moiaf on Aug 14, 2018 8:37:04 GMT -5
There is still some time to go before season 8 begins but it's probably less than a year away and that's a good thing.
So, I was thinking what will be the development of Jon and Dany's relationship throughout season 8. I haven't formed any firm ideas yet but I'm thinking that they baby will be born towards the end of the season if not in the last episode.
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Post by Maesteress on Aug 15, 2018 19:55:29 GMT -5
I wonder how the baby will (or won't) change Dany's ultimate goal. Will it make her even more determined to rule a peaceful Westeros or will her priorities change after an apocalyptic battle with the AOTD and then the arrival of a baby(and new found love)? I have been a Dany and Jon shipper from the very beginning and I get annoyed with any theory that detracts from them ultimately staying true to their love, but I don't always get my way lol, so figure we need to look at all the outside factors and influences to get a a better clue of where these two will end up.
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