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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 18:10:18 GMT -5
They have Bran and Melisandre. Magic will help them. Well, they have bran. We have no idea at what point Mel returns.
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Post by TheArchmaester on Mar 6, 2019 18:42:48 GMT -5
Yeah, the NK will definitely make it to King's Landing imo. And the battle of Winterfell will probably be a huge defeat for the heroes. Even if part of the AtoD is wiped out, Winterfell will probably be destroyed and the allied forces will be forced to flee like rats. Hardly a victory.
Besides, Cersei should have to face the NK issue too (in her own way). It makes dramatic sense. The NK is an all-consuming threat that should spare no character.
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Post by TheArchmaester on Mar 6, 2019 18:50:24 GMT -5
Oh, and I hope we get to see Edmure trying to protect the Riverlands in episode 4. Even if it's just a short scene.
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Post by nikma on Mar 6, 2019 19:12:34 GMT -5
I think they are hyping WF battle because they want to hide the fact that there is even bigger(more important) battle after that.
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Post by nikma on Mar 6, 2019 19:14:48 GMT -5
And yeah, Cersei and Euron need to suffer for their ignorance.
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Post by King Tommen on Mar 6, 2019 19:16:53 GMT -5
D&D made a conscious decision at some point that they would be comfortable revealing details about everyone congregating at Winterfell in E1 and that there would be a huge battle in E3 at Winterfell between the good guys and the WW's. And that's it. Every conversation and piece of promotional material about this season has focused basically on these two portions of the season and nothing else. The trailer I don't think has one single shot that occurs past E3.
And the crazy thing is that the trailer that is so heavy on it's huge battle finds a way to not give us any money shots from it or reveal the enemy once (unless you count blurry silhouettes and a pair of dead horse legs). It's so crazy how much they're holding back considering that they still have 3-4 hours after E3 to show with a presumably depleted cast all in most likely one setting (King's Landing). That's a ton of story to tell that we know essentially nothing about. You can bet there are some gigantic action set pieces included in that.
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Post by TheArchmaester on Mar 6, 2019 19:26:38 GMT -5
Yep. They are hyping the hell out of Episode 3 for two reasons. One: it's worth the hype. And two: they want to distract us from the true climax of the story (the "super mysterious" finale as described by EW, one that will probably involve major King's Landing action. That's the episode where anything can happen).
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Post by Envie on Mar 6, 2019 20:35:29 GMT -5
Yep. They are hyping the hell out of Episode 3 for two reasons. One: it's worth the hype. And two: they want to distract us from the true climax of the story (the "super mysterious" finale as described by EW, one that will probably involve major King's Landing action. That's the episode where anything can happen). I think after I watched the trailer in 'hype-mode' about 3 or 4 times, I calmed down and really began to analyze it along with everyone here and pretty much the entire internet. One thing that becomes clear to me is how little information they give us in such an action-packed trailer. Luka Nieto over at WotW was joking in their analysis article about how a LOT of the shots of our heroes are of them 'preparing for war' and not a whole lot else. Yeah, there's some tiny flashes of fighting (Arya, Jaime, etc) but you can't see who the enemy is, at all. One could argue they don't need to show the enemy, we already know it's the army of the undead. But why blur it out then? Well, I guess it's probably because they aren't done with the CGI and polish for one thing, and for two it leaves it open for speculation about other factors such as the Golden Company. But the final takeaway here is that they tried very hard to give us a lot of eye-candy and not much else. Focusing on the big Winterfell battle is like saying "Oh, look over there, a bird!" ... while you're trying to hide the shocking details of something else! This is both terrifying and exciting ... not knowing how this ends!
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Post by belle on Mar 6, 2019 21:47:16 GMT -5
I think they are hyping WF battle because they want to hide the fact that there is even bigger(more important) battle after that. Yep exactly. I have 0 doubt that this Winterfell battle will be fucking amazing to watch but they’re hyping it up so much because everyone also sorts of expect it. The AOTD making it to KL and causing damage there though...not as many people expect. And is a lot more unpredictable imo even for us.
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Post by belle on Mar 6, 2019 22:01:22 GMT -5
Yep. They are hyping the hell out of Episode 3 for two reasons. One: it's worth the hype. And two: they want to distract us from the true climax of the story (the "super mysterious" finale as described by EW, one that will probably involve major King's Landing action. That's the episode where anything can happen). I think after I watched the trailer in 'hype-mode' about 3 or 4 times, I calmed down and really began to analyze it along with everyone here and pretty much the entire internet. One thing that becomes clear to me is how little information they give us in such an action-packed trailer. Luka Nieto over at WotW was joking in their analysis article about how a LOT of the shots of our heroes are of them 'preparing for war' and not a whole lot else. Yeah, there's some tiny flashes of fighting (Arya, Jaime, etc) but you can't see who the enemy is, at all. One could argue they don't need to show the enemy, we already know it's the army of the undead. But why blur it out then? Well, I guess it's probably because they aren't done with the CGI and polish for one thing, and for two it leaves it open for speculation about other factors such as the Golden Company. But the final takeaway here is that they tried very hard to give us a lot of eye-candy and not much else. Focusing on the big Winterfell battle is like saying "Oh, look over there, a bird!" ... while you're trying to hide the shocking details of something else! This is both terrifying and exciting ... not knowing how this ends! I also thought it was really clever of them to have that shot of Cersei crying right after Jaime in battle. Lot of people on social media saying and thinking that she’s crying because she’s just heard Jaime died in Winterfell.imo It was purposefully their intention to make people think that by cutting to that shot of her after the Jaime in battle one.
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Post by belle on Mar 6, 2019 22:03:51 GMT -5
The NK is making to KL, willing to bet on that. probably, but they’re gonna have to make that make sense somehow. Cause if they have a big showdown at Winterfell, it wouldn’t make sense for NK to get further south unless he kills everybody in his way. It’s because team Winterfell is gonna get fucked in the ass by the NK most likely lmao
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Post by TheArchmaester on Mar 6, 2019 23:33:22 GMT -5
Tinfoil alert! (please forgive the rambling)... I was just doing some rewatching and Alliser Thorne's last words to Jon struck me as haunting. "You'll be fighting their battles forever"... emphasis on forever. This statement/semi-prophecy would be false if season 8 ended in some kind of lasting peace. Also Aemon's words to Jon: " You will find little joy in your command", similar to Beric's statement about hopelessly and endlessly fighting Death in s7. Anyway, it got me thinking. What if the bittersweet part doesn't have to do with death (which would be repetitive; Jon's already dead) but with some kind of immortality? In the words of Borges, "How else can one threaten someone other than with death? The interesting, the original thing, would be to threaten someone with immortality".This would be like the worst punishment imaginable for someone like Jon Snow and would also fit his character like a glove. And Aemon's, Alliser's and Beric's statements would take on new meaning. I'm not suggesting he become the NK or crap like that... just that maybe he is doomed to never die (what is dead may never die?), defend the realms of men in a kind of endless cycle... And I think we're going to learn a little bit more about how immortality works via Melisandre and Beric this season. Anyways apologies in advance for this...
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Post by ladystoneboobs on Mar 6, 2019 23:49:41 GMT -5
Tinfoil alert! (please forgive the rambling) And I think we're going to learn a little bit more about how immortality works via Melisandre and Beric this season. Anyways apologies in advance for this... you're right, bud, that's pretty tinfoily.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on Mar 7, 2019 0:14:43 GMT -5
Tinfoil alert! (please forgive the rambling) And I think we're going to learn a little bit more about how immortality works via Melisandre and Beric this season. Anyways apologies in advance for this... you're right, bud, that's pretty tinfoily. It is tinfoily, but considering the number of times Beric has been resurrected and Melisandre's age, what is deciding how long they live. I would assume the magical abilities and miracles of R'hllor and not really immortality. Jon survived BotB and Beyond the Wall because of luck, plot armor, or the Lord of Light watching over him, but I would think he eventually dies at some point. Especially if the magic disappears from the world once The Great War ends.
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Post by sercreighton on Mar 7, 2019 0:28:47 GMT -5
Okay so going over the posts here I decided to put a consensus together. 1. The Golden Company and Euron will attack Winterfell but also stay in KL. While attacking Winterfell the NK shows up and they are destroyed but also get back to KL. The army of the dawn then take the field outside Winterfell nice and calm and fresh looking after their big battle with the Iron Born and Golden Company. 2. The battle of Winterfell that took 55 nights to shoot and is the largest battle in cinimatic history is really just a trick, irrelivant, not important. The real even more major battle is at KL. 3. The army of the dawn gets crushed and destroyed at Winterfell. 4. The Night King and his army that does not rest, does not stop, does not fear marches on to KL after crushing Jon and Dany and their army that does need to rest, heal, eat, sleep etc... 5. Somehow, someway, Jon and Dany form another army made up of the same forces they had and slowly crawl to KL battered and broken with no supplies. They huddle up and are like let's go to Cersei for help. Then slowly follow the NK there. 6. Then someway, somehow the slow moving army of Jon and Dany manages to beat the army that does not stop or rest to KL. With a broken army that needs to rest, eat, heal set up camp and it's like a 3 month march in the cold with no supplies. 7. After ass fucking Jon and Danys army the NK decides he is affraid of them and allows them to make it to KL first. Maybe they took at right at Riverrun and ended up at Lannisport. 8. Jon and Dany get to KL and Cersei is out of power but also in power, Cause why would Jon go to negotiate with someone who is out of power? Will call it out of power but still in charge. 9. Cersei decides to help them but not help them, she summons her army that was destroyed at the Battle of Winterfell but is also in KL. 10. There is a battle between Cersei's forces and the army of the dawn she loses but she wins. Then the NK shows up and there is a battle battle. Another battle, that's what? 4 battles, Maybe a fifth battle with just the dragons. So my take from the trailer and screen shots is pretty simple. What are Jon and Dany's plan? Neither are stupid, and neither are going to try just a heads up fight with the NK. We see them preparing for battle, fuck Gendry looks like he's about shove a hammer up the NK's ass, march down and take Storms end, and then sleep with the next ten women he meets. We know there is the emotional 900 pound gorilla in the room. We also know they are prepping for battle and we see a lot of fire and it ain't purple or blue. We know you can set Winterfell on fire and survive in the crypts, that's what Bran did when Ramsey burnt Winterfell. We know Jon and the Unsullied and Dothraki make it too KL. We he meets with Cersei, we know a Dragon burns the gate at KL and again it ain't blue or purple looking fire. We have no evidence of the GC in the north or the army of darkness in the south. There are shots of Winterfell and we see a lot of fires burning inside and out. How do they plan to use the dragons? The Dothraki? How do they plan to use fire? Fire arrows? Fire ball shooting trebuchet, everyone with a boat seems to have them. Fire traps? Obsidian tipped arrows?Maybe they want to draw the NK in, get him close enough to hit him with two dragons. Maybe the dragons are affraid after what happened to Viserion and won't fight. What I do know is those ideas in the top 10 don't make a lot of sense. We know they gotta kill the NK, and we don't really know what he wants. Maybe he wants Crasters baby back, maybe Jon and Danys baby. Maybe he used to be a women the night Queen, second life and took a man's body, she misses her kids, pregnant Dany is the perfect answer. Who knows? It still won't change the fact that nothing in the top 10 makes a lot of sense. Which means there is a 50/50 chance they do it, teleporting and logic gaps are their calling card.
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