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Post by konradsmith on Nov 27, 2016 22:07:51 GMT -5
Bernarnold confirmed.
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Post by lordcarson on Nov 27, 2016 22:13:36 GMT -5
OH GOLLY
multiple timelines fucking confirmed boiz
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Post by lordcarson on Nov 27, 2016 22:14:14 GMT -5
and the finale is 90 minutes
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Post by konradsmith on Nov 27, 2016 22:16:25 GMT -5
OH GOLLY multiple timelines fucking confirmed boiz Yep. I wasn't big on that theory but that photograph proves it.
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Post by Envie on Nov 27, 2016 22:25:22 GMT -5
Wow. They really had me on the edge of my seat with that Bernard/Ford scene. I thought for sure we were about to see the end of Ford in a surprise 1st season shocker like non-book readers saw with Ned Stark for a minute there!
I'm so confused though, is Bernard permanently 'dead' or is Ford going to wipe him again?
Arnold was better at the code, there has to be something still hidden in there that Ford's not expecting!
Maeve might be the key here with her catspaw boys (Sylvester and Felix the cats).
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Post by lordcarson on Nov 27, 2016 22:49:15 GMT -5
Wow. They really had me on the edge of my seat with that Bernard/Ford scene. I thought for sure we were about to see the end of Ford in a surprise 1st season shocker like non-book readers saw with Ned Stark for a minute there! I'm so confused though, is Bernard permanently 'dead' or is Ford going to wipe him again? Arnold was better at the code, there has to be something still hidden in there that Ford's not expecting! Maeve might be the key here with her catspaw boys (Sylvester and Felix the cats). Maeve is definitely going to bring Bernard back when she goes down to free everyone else from cold storage.
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Post by Nezzer on Nov 28, 2016 0:44:50 GMT -5
holy r'hllor
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Post by Envie on Nov 28, 2016 0:46:39 GMT -5
I read that as "Holy roller" ... a new GoT meme needs to happen!
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Post by moiaf on Nov 28, 2016 19:30:25 GMT -5
Wow - just saw the episode. So good, I'm really enjoying this entangle weave of a tale. Bernard is Arnold reborn but first he was killed by Dolores. Why did Dolores killed him? I think William might indeed be the MIB, but I'm confused about some of the timeline issues. Heck, I'm confused in general. Also, Envie Bernard uttering the Violent delights quote as well. I wonder if that came from Arnold.
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Post by katjushka on Nov 28, 2016 22:04:15 GMT -5
I'm so fcking confused again It's nice when at some point during the week you feel like you finally understood most of what was in the last episode and you're all confident but then comes the new episode and it's all just one big "Wait, what??".
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Post by konradsmith on Nov 28, 2016 22:59:23 GMT -5
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Post by Envie on Nov 29, 2016 8:29:08 GMT -5
I've been reading all the wild theories on the Westworld subreddit because those nutters called it about Bernard being Arnold quite awhile ago. It's difficult to sift through the insane theories and try to find ones that make sense though.
So far I'm leaning towards Maeve being a planned part of Ford's new narrative and that it's some part of his plan to take down the board or even the entire park. I know he's so far seemed like the 'bad guy' but he and Arnold seemed to at least share the opinion that the "moneymen" should not be meddling with the hosts.
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Post by breakfest on Dec 1, 2016 6:50:55 GMT -5
Okay so this was again a really effectively done episode, and even though the reveal was obvious the intricacy of the storytelling, along with Jeffery Wright's acting, made the moment work. But does anyone else come out of this feeling basically nothing afterwards? The slow reveals can be thrilling, but ultimately they just leave me wondering how on earth any of what we've seen has led to this point. I feel like if you think too much about the inner workings of the park this whole thing falls apart pretty quickly.
It seems like a show made for out-of-the-box theorycrafting but if it's going for a more poignant aim of the nature of man and consciousness it's just lost me. So hey, what about this: Wyatt is actually Dolores. After she killed Bernard, Ford hated her and made her the villain of the piece. Then he put her in this painful loop where she gets raped over and over again out of spite. Or something.
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