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Post by moiaf on May 27, 2017 11:38:01 GMT -5
Drogon is Lightbringer, the metaphorical Nissa.Nissa already happens. I don't think so. That's the same like claiming that Quentin is prophesied by Mirri Maz Duur. And Nissa was introduced in the story after the dragons were born. The clues in the book are strongly pointing to Drogon being Lightbringer. We learned about it after Dany had already done it but the prophecy itself has been around for a long time. Long before Dany birth the dragons. Of Dany becomes a sacrifice to it should be on top of Drogon's back in battle, on her own terms. And what would that achieve exactly? Destroying the Heart of Winter is my guess, if a sacafics will be made. We are not suppose to look at AA sacrifice of Nissa Nissa as a good thing, I don't think. Because while the WW were sent away it didn't fix the problem. The season are still fucked up and the WW are still around. That was a badaid. I also don't think it would be repetitive for either of Jon or Dany's story to sacrificed the person they love. They both already did that with Drogo and Ygritte. That's just repeating a vicious cycle and Jon and Dany are about breaking the wheel. Neither of them do things they way they've always been done.
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Post by belle on May 27, 2017 11:38:57 GMT -5
thats the thing..... ~conveniently~... i just dont think dany's going to get pregnant after the war is over. i'm not sure of what kind of time jumps there will be or if there will be any at all. but since i''m now leaning on dany surviving the series. i think her having a baby is going to be an epilogue type of deal. I mean, it can definitely happen after the war, we don't know for sure. But my inclination given what we know is that it'll happen during boatsex. Cersei doesn't need to get pregnant, that story line is there for a reason and I doubt it's solely to retain Jiame by her side. It has absolutely nothing to do with Jaime. According to Lads, she only finds out she's pregnant at the end of 7x05, isn't in 7x06 and then miscarries in 7x07. So it's nothing to do with her being a crazy bitch and "trapping" Jaime with a baby. He stays with her on his own accord. I simply think the baby and the miscarriage is to make cersei feel completely isolated and lonely and have nothing to lose for in season 8. Before I found out that cersei only finds out about the pregnancy in 7x05. I thought they were going to do parallels with dany too. But I don't anymore. with it only playing a role for like 10 minutes in the season, I think it's fit cersei's character and storyline solely Dany can't exactly ride a dragon while being pregnant and adding a time jump so she can give birth and then have the Great War is too complicated for d&d's style imo
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Post by moiaf on May 27, 2017 11:40:28 GMT -5
I can't wait till the season 8 leaks come out and I'm personally can right that both Jon and dany will survive and that cersei will die in the series finale (if it's not only an epilogue). If this scenario actually happens the frothing at the mouth of some fans will be glorious. There will be an ocean of salty tears. Would the gods be that good to me?
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Post by moiaf on May 27, 2017 11:45:00 GMT -5
I mean, it can definitely happen after the war, we don't know for sure. But my inclination given what we know is that it'll happen during boatsex. Cersei doesn't need to get pregnant, that story line is there for a reason and I doubt it's solely to retain Jiame by her side. It has absolutely nothing to do with Jaime. According to Lads, she only finds out she's pregnant at the end of 7x05, isn't in 7x06 and then miscarries in 7x07. So it's nothing to do with her being a crazy bitch and "trapping" Jaime with a baby. He stays with her on his own accord. I simply think the baby and the miscarriage is to make cersei feel completely isolated and lonely and have nothing to lose for in season 8. Before I found out that cersei only finds out about the pregnancy in 7x05. I thought they were going to do parallels with dany too. But I don't anymore. with it only playing a role for like 10 minutes in the season, I think it's fit cersei's character and storyline solely Dany can't exactly ride a dragon while being pregnant and adding a time jump so she can give birth and then have the Great War is too complicated for d&d's style imo Well, if it has nothing to do with Jaime then it's definitely another parallel with Dany. This season is suppose to parallel / contrast these two queens. That they are doing it this late in the season means they want us to focus on it and have it from and center in our minds for when Dany and Jon conceive. Dany can ride Drogon well into pregnancy. You forget season one Dany who rode right up to the day she gave birth. It's a whole Dothraki cultural thing behind that. So, I would say Dany could easily ride Drogon at least until she's six month pregnant. We might see her get a saddle. ETA: She might not even know she's pregnant for months.
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Post by nikma on May 27, 2017 11:46:30 GMT -5
I really can't imagine Dany and Jon ruling togehter at the end. I may be wrong, but it seems too happy to me.
Maybe Dany won't die at Jon's hands, but I think that she will die. For the greater good.
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Post by Lils on May 27, 2017 11:47:14 GMT -5
I can't wait till the season 8 leaks come out and I'm personally can right that both Jon and dany will survive and that cersei will die in the series finale (if it's not only an epilogue). If this scenario actually happens the frothing at the mouth of some fans will be glorious. There will be an ocean of salty tears. Would the gods be that good to me? God that would be fantastic. It's going to be as or more amazing than when they cry at Jonerys coming together.
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Post by belle on May 27, 2017 11:48:53 GMT -5
It has absolutely nothing to do with Jaime. According to Lads, she only finds out she's pregnant at the end of 7x05, isn't in 7x06 and then miscarries in 7x07. So it's nothing to do with her being a crazy bitch and "trapping" Jaime with a baby. He stays with her on his own accord. I simply think the baby and the miscarriage is to make cersei feel completely isolated and lonely and have nothing to lose for in season 8. Before I found out that cersei only finds out about the pregnancy in 7x05. I thought they were going to do parallels with dany too. But I don't anymore. with it only playing a role for like 10 minutes in the season, I think it's fit cersei's character and storyline solely Dany can't exactly ride a dragon while being pregnant and adding a time jump so she can give birth and then have the Great War is too complicated for d&d's style imo Well, if it has nothing to do with Jaime then it's definitely another parallel with Dany. This season is suppose to parallel / contrast these two queens. That they are doing it this late in the season means they want us to focus on it and have it from and center in our minds for when Dany and Jon conceive. Dany can ride Drogon well into pregnancy. You forget season one Dany who rode right up to the day she gave birth. It's a whole Dothraki cultural thing behind that. So, I would say Dany could easily ride Drogon at least until she's six month pregnant. We might see her get a saddle. ETA: She might not even know she's pregnant for months. Let's just agree to disagree lol
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Post by moiaf on May 27, 2017 11:50:35 GMT -5
I really can't imagine Dany and Jon ruling togehter at the end. I may be wrong, but it seems too happy to me. Maybe Dany won't die at Jon's hands, but I think that she will die. For the greater good. That's not the only way the series can end, it's not an either or. I have a side theory of a sort that both Dany and Jon chose to walk away from it all. It might seem out of character maybe for Dany but after everything that happen they are so change by the war that they prefer to leave it all behind.
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Post by belle on May 27, 2017 11:51:39 GMT -5
I can't wait till the season 8 leaks come out and I'm personally can right that both Jon and dany will survive and that cersei will die in the series finale (if it's not only an epilogue). If this scenario actually happens the frothing at the mouth of some fans will be glorious. There will be an ocean of salty tears. Would the gods be that good to me? lol I'm neutral to jonerys myself. But it's going to be great to see the dany haters get pissed I agree. for me, it's cersei's death I care about the most. As long as her death is fucking amazing and dramatic and emotional. I'll accept almost anything for everything else lol. but logistically with 6 episodes and TV rules and structure... it's 99% likely that jonerys survive imo
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Post by Lils on May 27, 2017 11:51:47 GMT -5
I don't think so. That's the same like claiming that Quentin is prophesied by Mirri Maz Duur. And Nissa was introduced in the story after the dragons were born. The clues in the book are strongly pointing to Drogon being Lightbringer. We learned about it after Dany had already done it but the prophecy itself has been around for a long time. Long before Dany birth the dragons. And what would that achieve exactly? Destroying the Heart of Winter is my guess, if a sacafics will be made. We are not suppose to look at AA sacrifice of Nissa Nissa as a good thing, I don't think. Because while the WW were sent away it didn't fix the problem. The season are still fucked up and the WW are still around. That was a badaid. I also don't think it would be repetitive for either of Jon or Dany's story to sacrificed the person they love. They both already did that with Drogo and Ygritte. That's just repeating a vicious cycle and Jon and Dany are about breaking the wheel. Neither of them do things they way they've always been done. Jon and Dany at least seem to learn from their mistakes. GRRM doesn't seem to be big on one last sacrifice to save the world. He's been trying to show that war is a terrible thing. He's always drawn attention to the aftermath of war and the rebuilding. People would expect the story to end with the death of Dany or Jon, but I honestly think it's going to end with the attempts to rebuild the world and seeing how much it's change. If there is going to be a major death, I think it will be the dragons, not Dany.
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Post by Lils on May 27, 2017 11:53:00 GMT -5
I really can't imagine Dany and Jon ruling togehter at the end. I may be wrong, but it seems too happy to me. Maybe Dany won't die at Jon's hands, but I think that she will die. For the greater good. That's not the only way the series can end, it's not an either or. I have a side theory of a sort that both Dany and Jon chose to walk away from it all. It might seem out of character maybe for Dany but after everything that happen they are so change by the war that they prefer to leave it all behind. That's kind of where my mind is too. The both of them walk away from it all.
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Post by belle on May 27, 2017 11:53:33 GMT -5
I'm honestly cool with Jon and dany ruling for the endgame. But I do want the iron throne destroyed. The idea if dany and Jon sharing the throne isn't very appealing to me.
I doubt I'm going to get my wish tho. If they're both going to survive then I don't see the iron throne being destroyed
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Post by nikma on May 27, 2017 11:54:28 GMT -5
I really can't imagine Dany and Jon ruling togehter at the end. I may be wrong, but it seems too happy to me. Maybe Dany won't die at Jon's hands, but I think that she will die. For the greater good. That's not the only way the series can end, it's not an either or. I have a side theory of a sort that both Dany and Jon chose to walk away from it all. It might seem out of character maybe for Dany but after everything that happen they are so change by the war that they prefer to leave it all behind. I don't know, but the good thing is that we will find out very soon
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Post by moiaf on May 27, 2017 11:55:39 GMT -5
The clues in the book are strongly pointing to Drogon being Lightbringer. We learned about it after Dany had already done it but the prophecy itself has been around for a long time. Long before Dany birth the dragons. Destroying the Heart of Winter is my guess, if a sacafics will be made. We are not suppose to look at AA sacrifice of Nissa Nissa as a good thing, I don't think. Because while the WW were sent away it didn't fix the problem. The season are still fucked up and the WW are still around. That was a badaid. I also don't think it would be repetitive for either of Jon or Dany's story to sacrificed the person they love. They both already did that with Drogo and Ygritte. That's just repeating a vicious cycle and Jon and Dany are about breaking the wheel. Neither of them do things they way they've always been done. Jon and Dany at least seem to learn from their mistakes. GRRM doesn't seem to be big on one last sacrifice to save the world. He's been trying to show that war is a terrible thing. He's always drawn attention to the aftermath of war and the rebuilding. People would expect the story to end with the death of Dany or Jon, but I honestly think it's going to end with the attempts to rebuild the world and seeing how much it's change. If there is going to be a major death, I think it will be the dragons, not Dany. I'm pretty sure all the dragons are going to die. :cry: Which makes me really sad because I love dragons. But I think that'll be the end of that era. Also, I think Dany will be the one to sacrifice them.
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Post by nikma on May 27, 2017 11:56:32 GMT -5
I don't think that the iron throne will be destroyed. And I wouldn't like to see the Throne destroyed.
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