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Post by charliexcx on Apr 15, 2019 20:23:04 GMT -5
What did we think about their scenes in 8x1? I thought they were super cute. I loved the dragon flying scene. The dragon riding scene was a bit corny but cute. I thought Jon and Dany were very adorable together, you can tell how comfortable they are with one another. I do want to note that the framing of their shots followed a similar pattern as the end of last season where Jon and Dany are seen isolated even though there are people all around them. Oh that I noticed. It was cute. I've seen those same shots in other films and shows where two people are in lurrrvveee and noticed no one else. Can we give a shoutout to Davos for being the biggest shipper? That man has been on board since their first intense meeting.
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Post by charliexcx on Apr 15, 2019 20:26:36 GMT -5
It was nice to see them happy before things hit the fan. Emilia has a nice smile too
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 5:30:31 GMT -5
I found it funny how they pulled off a classic move of Jon avoiding Dany without explanation.
One on hand is logical that Dany would bring up Jon's claim because let's face it, it means something to her. But she almost gave him the traitor look or the one who's been manipulating her going back to library scene. That visibly hurt Jon and that rubbed me the wrong way. Knowing what Jorah did in the past, Tyrion proved to be useless while helping his family ... I get that she has issues with people backstabbing her but Jon died for what he believes in and gave up his crown for his people. He wears heart on his sleeve.
I wonder if all of this is a set up for Dany to give up her crown. Going back to what Sam said to Jon. We know Jon will give it up, for him, it is not important but it is for Dany. A lot of angst coming our way.
Really hope we're not going into Dark Dany territory or other bigger conflict. As I hate those theories as much as I do political Jon.
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Post by charliexcx on Apr 22, 2019 7:57:38 GMT -5
I can't at Dany learning all this news and then finding out she's pregnant😂. This is the drama I live for and so does GRRM.
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Post by moiaf on Apr 22, 2019 8:32:13 GMT -5
I can't at Dany learning all this news and then finding out she's pregnant😂. This is the drama I live for and so does GRRM. I was having a discussion with someone and Dany's words of "lat male Targaryen" also carry a hint that Jon can continue the line where she can't. She might be thinking she has to give him up as well.
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Post by charliexcx on Apr 22, 2019 8:50:40 GMT -5
I can't at Dany learning all this news and then finding out she's pregnant😂. This is the drama I live for and so does GRRM. I was having a discussion with someone and Dany's words of "lat male Targaryen" also carry a hint that Jon can continue the line where she can't. She might be thinking she has to give him up as well. I agree with this which is very painful if you love someone. I wish there was more time for her to process this like Jon got time.
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Post by milyagaryen on Apr 26, 2019 2:46:20 GMT -5
Hey all, I've been lurking more than posting, but just wanted to chime in and say thank goodness for you all in this final season - this place really is a sanctuary in the madness of the GoT fandom...I was so sad after episode 1 when I went on my usual forum/recap binge and found that literally everyone seemed to have turned on Daenerys (well, I think many were already against her). You're definitely my people! Hehe. Also, I found this thread on freefolk the other day, which also did an amazing amount to allay my concerns - such a good summary of all the foreshadowing and symbolism for Jon and Daenerys in the books, which many of you picked up on long ago. It's hard not to think maybe I've got it wrong, when so many people seem so confident in their MaD QuEen! theories, but so long as I just focus on *my* reactions to the episode/story rather than other peoples, I find it a lot easier to maintain my belief that all will be well with Jonerys eventually. Like you moiaf , I think Daenerys was already starting to worry about continuing the Targaryen line in her response to Jon's revelation in E02, but the writers chose to make it ambiguous because drama's what keeps the story going. Also like you, I think a baby is inevitable, and that they are both going to peace out of Westeros with baby after the fighting is over. I just keep going back to the HotU scene from the show, which so simply sets this (or something very similar) out as Dany's fate - in the end she's going to choose family over throne. All this iron throne talk now (which seems regressive considering the way she spoke with Jon about the battle last season)is just distraction from the ending. Anyway, all will be revealed in a few weeks! Looking forward to the final ride, and reading all your insightful commentary. Happy final season!
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Post by charliexcx on Apr 26, 2019 3:05:02 GMT -5
Hey all, I've been lurking more than posting, but just wanted to chime in and say thank goodness for you all in this final season - this place really is a sanctuary in the madness of the GoT fandom...I was so sad after episode 1 when I went on my usual forum/recap binge and found that literally everyone seemed to have turned on Daenerys (well, I think many were already against her). You're definitely my people! Hehe. Also, I found this thread on freefolk the other day, which also did an amazing amount to allay my concerns - such a good summary of all the foreshadowing and symbolism for Jon and Daenerys in the books, which many of you picked up on long ago. It's hard not to think maybe I've got it wrong, when so many people seem so confident in their MaD QuEen! theories, but so long as I just focus on *my* reactions to the episode/story rather than other peoples, I find it a lot easier to maintain my belief that all will be well with Jonerys eventually. Like you moiaf , I think Daenerys was already starting to worry about continuing the Targaryen line in her response to Jon's revelation in E02, but the writers chose to make it ambiguous because drama's what keeps the story going. Also like you, I think a baby is inevitable, and that they are both going to peace out of Westeros with baby after the fighting is over. I just keep going back to the HotU scene from the show, which so simply sets this (or something very similar) out as Dany's fate - in the end she's going to choose family over throne. All this iron throne talk now (which seems regressive considering the way she spoke with Jon about the battle last season)is just distraction from the ending. Anyway, all will be revealed in a few weeks! Looking forward to the final ride, and reading all your insightful commentary. Happy final season! Welcome!
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Post by charliexcx on Apr 26, 2019 3:10:05 GMT -5
The HOTU scene is one of my favorite scenes in the show because it pretty much tells you Daenerys third and final act of the series. It's ambiguous but you really get the feeling what it leads to. I've never thought it meant her death only people who seem to buy into the anti Dany hype believe that. Like why would they show you her going to the wall and then she finds a baby with someone she once loved? The scene visit as amazing as the book but I always thought D&D did a good job on it. It kind of falls in line with GRRMs type of writing, telling you what is going to happen without outright telling you.
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Hey all, I've been lurking more than posting, but just wanted to chime in and say thank goodness for you all in this final season - this place really is a sanctuary in the madness of the GoT fandom...I was so sad after episode 1 when I went on my usual forum/recap binge and found that literally everyone seemed to have turned on Daenerys (well, I think many were already against her). You're definitely my people! Hehe. Also, I found this thread on freefolk the other day, which also did an amazing amount to allay my concerns - such a good summary of all the foreshadowing and symbolism for Jon and Daenerys in the books, which many of you picked up on long ago. It's hard not to think maybe I've got it wrong, when so many people seem so confident in their MaD QuEen! theories, but so long as I just focus on *my* reactions to the episode/story rather than other peoples, I find it a lot easier to maintain my belief that all will be well with Jonerys eventually. Like you moiaf , I think Daenerys was already starting to worry about continuing the Targaryen line in her response to Jon's revelation in E02, but the writers chose to make it ambiguous because drama's what keeps the story going. Also like you, I think a baby is inevitable, and that they are both going to peace out of Westeros with baby after the fighting is over. I just keep going back to the HotU scene from the show, which so simply sets this (or something very similar) out as Dany's fate - in the end she's going to choose family over throne. All this iron throne talk now (which seems regressive considering the way she spoke with Jon about the battle last season)is just distraction from the ending. Anyway, all will be revealed in a few weeks! Looking forward to the final ride, and reading all your insightful commentary. Happy final season! moiaf helped me a great deal when in the midst of the fandom madness, it was almost impossible to swim against the current of hate that was submerging Daenerys. However, I noticed that if you point out the inconsistencies of the haters' theories and predictions, they will retreat. I took refuge into the books and instead of debating I started posting meaningful quotes. The more I read and searched, the more it became clear that Martin had not created Daenerys Targaryen to merely delivers armies and Dragons to the North. Her character is at the centre of everything, her journey is riddled by prophecies and discoveries. If the Night King is the champion of Ice, then Daenerys surely is champion of Fire. In the show, the moment she set foot on Westeros, it felt like her character became subservient to the writing. The way she acted was no longer determined by the journey that her characters had undertaken and her characterisation was no longer cohesive. Personally, I felt it was a mistake to shorten the seasons. Moreover, this "rightful heir" business the show decided to go for, further diminish her journey. I am aware that the show has its limits and I understand that having Bran say "He has a claim to the IT" wouldn't carry the same punch...still, it created a dishonest narrative and Daenerys paid for it the most. Especially because, Sam and Bran's claims would hardly be taken seriously in a courtroom. I already wrote how I feel about Sam's reaction to the Tarlys's execution, actually sercreighton wrote a wonderful post about. And I might be in the minority but I am not a fan of Jon and Daenerys retiring to live a quiet life. I know that she longs for the Red Door but we always long for what we do not have. I would love her to maintain a position of leadership, regardless of the Throne making it, the surviving Westeros will need leaders and she is a character that is able to inspire people, more than anyone else.
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Post by moiaf on Apr 28, 2019 12:03:38 GMT -5
Hey all, I've been lurking more than posting, but just wanted to chime in and say thank goodness for you all in this final season - this place really is a sanctuary in the madness of the GoT fandom...I was so sad after episode 1 when I went on my usual forum/recap binge and found that literally everyone seemed to have turned on Daenerys (well, I think many were already against her). You're definitely my people! Hehe. Also, I found this thread on freefolk the other day, which also did an amazing amount to allay my concerns - such a good summary of all the foreshadowing and symbolism for Jon and Daenerys in the books, which many of you picked up on long ago. It's hard not to think maybe I've got it wrong, when so many people seem so confident in their MaD QuEen! theories, but so long as I just focus on *my* reactions to the episode/story rather than other peoples, I find it a lot easier to maintain my belief that all will be well with Jonerys eventually. Like you moiaf , I think Daenerys was already starting to worry about continuing the Targaryen line in her response to Jon's revelation in E02, but the writers chose to make it ambiguous because drama's what keeps the story going. Also like you, I think a baby is inevitable, and that they are both going to peace out of Westeros with baby after the fighting is over. I just keep going back to the HotU scene from the show, which so simply sets this (or something very similar) out as Dany's fate - in the end she's going to choose family over throne. All this iron throne talk now (which seems regressive considering the way she spoke with Jon about the battle last season)is just distraction from the ending. Anyway, all will be revealed in a few weeks! Looking forward to the final ride, and reading all your insightful commentary. Happy final season! Staying focus on what we know to be true is the best way to avoid most of the craze going on in the fandom. It's like a mob mentality has taken over. But as I explained on one of my post in my blog, Jon and Dany are going through a mini-Hero's Journey this season and so things have to get worse before they get better. There are rules to story telling and there's structure, and if you don't loose your head and just focus on the big picture you can see what the story is trying to accomplish. The HOTU scene is one of my favorite scenes in the show because it pretty much tells you Daenerys third and final act of the series. It's ambiguous but you really get the feeling what it leads to. I've never thought it meant her death only people who seem to buy into the anti Dany hype believe that. Like why would they show you her going to the wall and then she finds a baby with someone she once loved? The scene visit as amazing as the book but I always thought D&D did a good job on it. It kind of falls in line with GRRMs type of writing, telling you what is going to happen without outright telling you. I remember when the HOTU first came out, people hated it and most predicted that it was foreshaodiwing of Dany's death. Now, that we are almost at the end we can see that there was real meaning behind it and that it wasn't her death that it was predicting but her choosing what's her heat's decire rather than her duty. But she'll do her duty first. Hey all, I've been lurking more than posting, but just wanted to chime in and say thank goodness for you all in this final season - this place really is a sanctuary in the madness of the GoT fandom...I was so sad after episode 1 when I went on my usual forum/recap binge and found that literally everyone seemed to have turned on Daenerys (well, I think many were already against her). You're definitely my people! Hehe. Also, I found this thread on freefolk the other day, which also did an amazing amount to allay my concerns - such a good summary of all the foreshadowing and symbolism for Jon and Daenerys in the books, which many of you picked up on long ago. It's hard not to think maybe I've got it wrong, when so many people seem so confident in their MaD QuEen! theories, but so long as I just focus on *my* reactions to the episode/story rather than other peoples, I find it a lot easier to maintain my belief that all will be well with Jonerys eventually. Like you moiaf , I think Daenerys was already starting to worry about continuing the Targaryen line in her response to Jon's revelation in E02, but the writers chose to make it ambiguous because drama's what keeps the story going. Also like you, I think a baby is inevitable, and that they are both going to peace out of Westeros with baby after the fighting is over. I just keep going back to the HotU scene from the show, which so simply sets this (or something very similar) out as Dany's fate - in the end she's going to choose family over throne. All this iron throne talk now (which seems regressive considering the way she spoke with Jon about the battle last season)is just distraction from the ending. Anyway, all will be revealed in a few weeks! Looking forward to the final ride, and reading all your insightful commentary. Happy final season! moiaf helped me a great deal when in the midst of the fandom madness, it was almost impossible to swim against the current of hate that was submerging Daenerys. However, I noticed that if you point out the inconsistencies of the haters' theories and predictions, they will retreat. I took refuge into the books and instead of debating I started posting meaningful quotes. The more I read and searched, the more it became clear that Martin had not created Daenerys Targaryen to merely delivers armies and Dragons to the North. Her character is at the centre of everything, her journey is riddled by prophecies and discoveries. If the Night King is the champion of Ice, then Daenerys surely is champion of Fire. In the show, the moment she set foot on Westeros, it felt like her character became subservient to the writing. The way she acted was no longer determined by the journey that her characters had undertaken and her characterisation was no longer cohesive. Personally, I felt it was a mistake to shorten the seasons. Moreover, this "rightful heir" business the show decided to go for, further diminish her journey. I am aware that the show has its limits and I understand that having Bran say "He has a claim to the IT" wouldn't carry the same punch...still, it created a dishonest narrative and Daenerys paid for it the most. Especially because, Sam and Bran's claims would hardly be taken seriously in a courtroom. I already wrote how I feel about Sam's reaction to the Tarlys's execution, actually sercreighton wrote a wonderful post about. And I might be in the minority but I am not a fan of Jon and Daenerys retiring to live a quiet life. I know that she longs for the Red Door but we always long for what we do not have. I would love her to maintain a position of leadership, regardless of the Throne making it, the surviving Westeros will need leaders and she is a character that is able to inspire people, more than anyone else. I just think about book-Dany and the house with the red door and how important this is to her throughout all the books that have been published. She is currently doing her duty, she's been doing her duty from the very beginning and it would be nice if she can follow her heart at the end. I don't doubt thought that even if she decides to walk away from ruling Westeros, she'll still be a leader. I don't think she can help that.
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Post by Maesteress on Apr 29, 2019 11:58:53 GMT -5
My dearest Jonerys shippers - I am having major anxiety over the fate of our hero and heroine after watching next week's promo and also hearing a potential spoiler that is incredibly disturbing.
Please tell me these two tragic characters love story is not going to end in devastation. Remind me to have faith in D&D.
I'd also ask you to tell me to stop looking at spoilers but if they are anything like the potential one I heard yesterday, I need time to prepare.
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Post by moiaf on May 2, 2019 19:31:33 GMT -5
My dearest Jonerys shippers - I am having major anxiety over the fate of our hero and heroine after watching next week's promo and also hearing a potential spoiler that is incredibly disturbing. Please tell me these two tragic characters love story is not going to end in devastation. Remind me to have faith in D&D. I'd also ask you to tell me to stop looking at spoilers but if they are anything like the potential one I heard yesterday, I need time to prepare. First, stop looking at spoilers. They’re unhealthy and toxic. It’s ruining your enjoyment of the show. I’m actually pretty optimistic about the next episode. See this post: housewiththereddoor.freeforums.net/post/70123/threadSo, it appears the reconciliation is coming. I’m not sure weather we get a pregnancy announcement this episode or the next. With Dany and Cersei being foils I think it’ll be something like, Cersei miscarries and then we hear of Dany’s pregnancy or vice versa. Soon enough so that we make the connection. Don’t lose hope, the clues are there. You should listen to them. By the way, in the photo of Dany at the feast it’s most likely that it is Jon who is sitting next to her (notice there’s a place setting) and he’s just out of frame because he’s toasting her. Here’s the photo and you can clearly see the plate to Dany’s right.
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Post by TheMadQueen on May 2, 2019 20:47:16 GMT -5
Feast in the great hall, toasts and everyone laughing, Daenerys wearing a new dress in her house colors...could we be witnessing a wedding?
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