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Post by nikma on Aug 25, 2018 13:31:39 GMT -5
I will just put this post from free folk.
"really brave", "unexpected events", "not what I thought", "there will be divisions", "people will probably take sides", "great but unexpected", "some will like it, some will not", "very true to what Thrones is...don't see how it could end any other way", and of course...."bittersweet" from the big man himself.
Off the top of my head these are some of the descriptions from people who know the ending of season 8 and the story. How many more coded language and coded words does one need to realize that you simply wouldn't use these types of descriptor adjectives to describe a neat little ending that features the Night King being killed and Jon and Dany living happily ever after with the Targaryen Restoration?
And no, it's not all "they're lying for hype" either. Every single pre-season of Game of Thrones has featured hype. Yes. But it's also featured truth in the statements that are made too. These people are not giving interviews and outright lying 100% of the time. So we'll see what it means. I don't think it means a happily ever after ending though.
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Post by belle on Aug 25, 2018 13:34:11 GMT -5
It’s not like I want a 100% happy ending, but I’m over the Dany/Jon dying theories bc of it were to happen there’s no way in which it can be done in a way that would be not rushed imo.
Especially since now we know Cersei makes it to episode 6 and will most likely die in that episode
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Post by nikma on Aug 25, 2018 13:51:38 GMT -5
Well, maybe it will be rushed.
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Post by TheArchmaester on Aug 25, 2018 13:58:35 GMT -5
I will just put this post from free folk. "really brave", "unexpected events", "not what I thought", "there will be divisions", "people will probably take sides", "great but unexpected", "some will like it, some will not", "very true to what Thrones is...don't see how it could end any other way", and of course...."bittersweet" from the big man himself. Off the top of my head these are some of the descriptions from people who know the ending of season 8 and the story. How many more coded language and coded words does one need to realize that you simply wouldn't use these types of descriptor adjectives to describe a neat little ending that features the Night King being killed and Jon and Dany living happily ever after with the Targaryen Restoration?And no, it's not all "they're lying for hype" either. Every single pre-season of Game of Thrones has featured hype. Yes. But it's also featured truth in the statements that are made too. These people are not giving interviews and outright lying 100% of the time. So we'll see what it means. I don't think it means a happily ever after ending though. Fully agreed, and besides, that ending wouldn't make a lick of sense. Going back to the way things were? Not the way this story is going (I think Jon and Dany will probably live, though).
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Post by belle on Aug 25, 2018 13:58:56 GMT -5
Well, maybe it will be rushed. D and d rush a lot of things but they don’t rush huge character deaths
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Post by nikma on Aug 25, 2018 14:06:03 GMT -5
Well, maybe it will be rushed. D and d rush a lot of things but they don’t rush huge character deaths "Rushed" is subjective thing anyway.
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Post by belle on Aug 25, 2018 14:24:03 GMT -5
D and d rush a lot of things but they don’t rush huge character deaths "Rushed" is subjective thing anyway. Not if Dany dies two minutes after Jaime and cersei
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Post by nikma on Aug 25, 2018 14:37:37 GMT -5
No, but if she dies 40-50 minutes after them I wouldn't consider that rushed.
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Post by belle on Aug 25, 2018 14:56:54 GMT -5
No, but if she dies 40-50 minutes after them I wouldn't consider that rushed. Can’t envision that at all considering how the night king, viserion, and the mountain also have to die in 806. Jaime and Cersei will probably die around the last 20 minutes or so of the series finale.
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Post by nikma on Aug 25, 2018 15:01:48 GMT -5
Another good argument at free folk why Daenerys will die IMO.
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Post by nikma on Aug 25, 2018 15:03:13 GMT -5
No, but if she dies 40-50 minutes after them I wouldn't consider that rushed. Can’t envision that at all considering how the night king, viserion, and the mountain also have to die in 806. Jaime and Cersei will probably die around the last 20 minutes or so of the series finale. I think we just disagree about lot of things, especially that Jaime and Cersei will die around the last 20 minutes. I think they will both die in the first half of the episode.
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Post by katjushka on Aug 25, 2018 15:05:24 GMT -5
I will just put this post from free folk. "really brave", "unexpected events", "not what I thought", "there will be divisions", "people will probably take sides", "great but unexpected", "some will like it, some will not", "very true to what Thrones is...don't see how it could end any other way", and of course...."bittersweet" from the big man himself. Off the top of my head these are some of the descriptions from people who know the ending of season 8 and the story. How many more coded language and coded words does one need to realize that you simply wouldn't use these types of descriptor adjectives to describe a neat little ending that features the Night King being killed and Jon and Dany living happily ever after with the Targaryen Restoration? And no, it's not all "they're lying for hype" either. Every single pre-season of Game of Thrones has featured hype. Yes. But it's also featured truth in the statements that are made too. These people are not giving interviews and outright lying 100% of the time. So we'll see what it means. I don't think it means a happily ever after ending though. I don't quite know where I stand with Dany and Jon living/dying at the moment but the thing that came to mind was that there are so many other characters as well and not everyone is going to be talking about Dany and Jon and how they end up. So I wouldn't really read much in to these comments.
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Post by TheArchmaester on Aug 25, 2018 15:09:56 GMT -5
Another good argument at free folk why Daenerys will die IMO. The baby plot is definitely going somewhere big imo. But if we go with Option 2, I'd say it's more likely Jon dies, not Dany. Jon's role in making the baby is over (it's already over by the time season 7 ends ). Dany has 9 months of pregnancy to go, and I don't think she's going to die in labor so her survival chances look pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 15:44:18 GMT -5
Another good argument at free folk why Daenerys will die IMO. The baby plot is definitely going somewhere big imo. But if we go with Option 2, I'd say it's more likely Jon dies, not Dany. Jon's role in making the baby is over (it's already over by the time season 7 ends ). Dany has 9 months of pregnancy to go, and I don't think she's going to die in labor so her survival chances look pretty good. I actually think if either Jon or Dany die that Dany is by a mile the likelier option. Jon raising a motherless child on his own would mirror his own childhood, only he'd ensure his kid isn't raised a bastard. Dany is also a messiah figure to so many people and messiah figures usually end up dying. It would be very christ-like if she died and became the central figure to a new religion born from another like Christianity was from Judaism. Plus, the foreshadowing just doesn't support Jon dying over Dany imo. It's definitely the other way around.
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Post by TheArchmaester on Aug 25, 2018 15:54:03 GMT -5
The baby plot is definitely going somewhere big imo. But if we go with Option 2, I'd say it's more likely Jon dies, not Dany. Jon's role in making the baby is over (it's already over by the time season 7 ends ). Dany has 9 months of pregnancy to go, and I don't think she's going to die in labor so her survival chances look pretty good. I actually think if either Jon or Dany die that Dany is by a mile the likelier option. Jon raising a motherless child on his own would mirror his own childhood, only he'd ensure his kid isn't raised a bastard. Dany is also a messiah figure to so many people and messiah figures usually end up dying. It would be very christ-like if she died and became the central figure to a new religion born from another like Christianity was from Judaism. Plus, the foreshadowing just doesn't support Jon dying over Dany imo. It's definitely the other way around. I had never considered that possibility before (Dany becomes the messiah figure for a new religion). I like it, though it might be too creepy an ending. If the show makes a final commentary on religion, I think it will be a negative one. Kinvara's obsession with Dany being the messiah and "purifying souls by the thousands" was already ominous as hell in s6.
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