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Post by Zadeth on May 3, 2019 10:59:54 GMT -5
I think I picked an awkward time to log on after a while..
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Post by moiaf on May 3, 2019 11:08:05 GMT -5
I think I picked an awkward time to log on after a while.. Welcome back to the mad house.
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Post by Nezzer on May 3, 2019 11:11:45 GMT -5
Never thought I'd say it, but after a year away I kinda missed the occasional drama. Of course, as long as it doesn't become a complete shitshow like UTHT
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 11:13:45 GMT -5
Never thought I'd say it, but after a year away I kinda missed the occasional drama. Of course, as long as it doesn't become a complete shitshow like UTHT I'm sure there will be carnage after the finale no matter what happens.
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Post by Zadeth on May 3, 2019 11:14:57 GMT -5
Never thought I'd say it, but after a year away I kinda missed the occasional drama. Of course, as long as it doesn't become a complete shitshow like UTHT I'm sure there will be carnage after the finale no matter what happens. As long as no one threatens to nuke the board...
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Post by Nezzer on May 3, 2019 11:17:26 GMT -5
Never thought I'd say it, but after a year away I kinda missed the occasional drama. Of course, as long as it doesn't become a complete shitshow like UTHT I'm sure there will be carnage after the finale no matter what happens. Most defintely. Remember when Stannis burned Shireen or when Lady Stoneheart never showed up? Something like Jon killing Dany could trigger an even bigger shitshow.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on May 3, 2019 11:31:20 GMT -5
Never thought I'd say it, but after a year away I kinda missed the occasional drama. Of course, as long as it doesn't become a complete shitshow like UTHT I'm not sure anyone is prepared. I mean if Dany dies, the entire fandom will become chaotic for quite a while. It will be a never ending debate. There's a couple of things pointing to her surviving. She could have a child in the epilogue based off the statements in S7. She could break the wheel by putting a council of representatives from each kingdom and heading off to the metaphorical "House with the Red Door." Though Dany saying to Jon they could stay here for a thousand years and nobody would find them is open to interpretation because it's similar to Ygritte and that ended in tragedy so
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 11:35:22 GMT -5
Never thought I'd say it, but after a year away I kinda missed the occasional drama. Of course, as long as it doesn't become a complete shitshow like UTHT I'm not sure anyone is prepared. I mean if Dany dies, the entire fandom will become chaotic for quite a while. It will be a never ending debate. There's a couple of things pointing to her surviving. She could have a child in the epilogue based off the statements in S7. She could break the wheel by putting a council of representatives from each kingdom and heading off to the metaphorical "House with the Red Door." Though Dany saying to Jon they could stay here for a thousand years and nobody would find them is open to interpretation because it's similar to Ygritte and that ended in tragedy so Honestly I feel like that scene was just them trying to recreate the cave scene..
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Post by moiaf on May 3, 2019 11:37:10 GMT -5
Never thought I'd say it, but after a year away I kinda missed the occasional drama. Of course, as long as it doesn't become a complete shitshow like UTHT I'm not sure anyone is prepared. I mean if Dany dies, the entire fandom will become chaotic for quite a while. It will be a never ending debate. There's a couple of things pointing to her surviving. She could have a child in the epilogue based off the statements in S7. She could break the wheel by putting a council of representatives from each kingdom and heading off to the metaphorical "House with the Red Door." Though Dany saying to Jon they could stay here for a thousand years and nobody would find them is open to interpretation because it's similar to Ygritte and that ended in tragedy so Do you remember what Jon said to Ygrrite? I can't remember but it would be interesting to compare that to what he says to Dany.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on May 3, 2019 11:50:08 GMT -5
Honestly I feel like that scene was just them trying to recreate the cave scene.. Yeah true it could have just been that with no more meaning. Do you remember what Jon said to Ygrrite? I can't remember but it would be interesting to compare that to what he says to Dany. Jon didn't say anything back to her. He continued to kiss her after she said "Let's not go back..." and then it went to the next scene.
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Post by moiaf on May 3, 2019 12:01:17 GMT -5
Honestly I feel like that scene was just them trying to recreate the cave scene.. Yeah true it could have just been that with no more meaning. Do you remember what Jon said to Ygrrite? I can't remember but it would be interesting to compare that to what he says to Dany. Jon didn't say anything back to her. He continued to kiss her after she said "Let's not go back..." and then it went to the next scene. Oh okay, thank you. He does tell Dany, they'd be old, so he doesn't disagree with her. So, it might not be more than that. Who knows.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on May 3, 2019 12:21:21 GMT -5
Oh okay, thank you. He does tell Dany, they'd be old, so he doesn't disagree with her. So, it might not be more than that. Who knows. However, because The Long Night ended in 803 and the fact that there's still 19 series regulars left, I think it does increase the chances of more twists in the south. Now whether that's Qyburn up to some crazy experiments, the damage to the KL set being more than just dragonfire, or something that involves more main characters will be interesting.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 14:17:10 GMT -5
I love Daenerys to death but I have to agree with @fireandblood on this. I think Dany’s death is 50/50 but her character dying onscreen wouldn’t stop Emilia from watching the episode with fans imo. In a way it could be better cuz the fans could directtly talk to Emilia afterwards and she could ~comfort~ them in her own way. I know you like Dany but I wouldn't consider you a Dany stan, you have other characters you love more, and that's okay. But as a Dany stan I'm telling you that would be extremely shitty. I think the other Dany stans, @nictarion, @thewhitedevil, daeronthegood would agree with me on this. I think it would be one thing if Dany got a heroic death or died in childbirth or something, but yes, it would be a strange choice by Emilia to have a contest for fans to watch their favorite character go full made queen in the final minutes and have to be killed by Jon. If the show does that they want it to hit harder than Ned, or the RW, or pretty much anything the story has done thus far. We hadn’t spent nearly as much time with those other characters. If we have to watch Dany be killed in such a way it’s supposed to be an absolute gut punch. Who would want to be an emotional wreck in front of a celebrity you like? Talk about embarrassing. Idk just doesn’t seem like something the bubbly Emilia would do.
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Post by moiaf on May 3, 2019 14:29:17 GMT -5
I know you like Dany but I wouldn't consider you a Dany stan, you have other characters you love more, and that's okay. But as a Dany stan I'm telling you that would be extremely shitty. I think the other Dany stans, @nictarion, @thewhitedevil, daeronthegood would agree with me on this. I think it would be one thing if Dany got a heroic death or died in childbirth or something, but yes, it would be a strange choice by Emilia to have a contest for fans to watch their favorite character go full made queen in the final minutes and have to be killed by Jon. If the show does that they want it to hit harder than Ned, or the RW, or pretty much anything the story has done thus far. We hadn’t spent nearly as much time with those other characters. If we have to watch Dany be killed in such a way it’s supposed to be an absolute gut punch. Who would want to be an emotional wreck in front of a celebrity you like? Talk about embarrassing. Idk just doesn’t seem like something the bubbly Emilia would do. I think if the Night King were still around and she died heroically as we've speculated a gazillion times, that's one thing. That I would understand as its in character for Dany, being a rescuer. However, having her go mad queen and be murdered by the man she loves is just the worst ending possible for her character after everything she's been through, everything she's accomplished, and all the people she's helped along the way. I can't imagine Emilia being happy with that kind of ending for Dany or wanting to share it with fans.
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Post by atargbyanothername on May 3, 2019 17:56:46 GMT -5
Lol it’s a good thing he’s saying this so fandom knows exactly who to ream if they don’t like what happens I screenshot it to have it around for when people start saying the book ending will be different. I mean, it'll be different for the secondary characters but the protagonist will all have similar endings. Just in the interests of fairness and clarity, i believe he also said he hasnt actually worked on the show or seen the scripts for this season so this is his assumption that the endings will be the same. Its not an unreasonable assumption of course, but i think its more difficult to deduce what the “main ending” that won’t differ from the books will be than many give credit for. For example, Bran’s would be a major ending in the books and after last episode i can’t fathom how they will be the same. The WW story is also bound to end differently given the lack of a single “big bad” in the books, which means its not possible to end the same way as the show. And i’d say that was a fairly significant ending too. ok that turned into a lot of waffle but tl;dr i don’t think GRRM actually knows where and how S8 will differ and as fans we will likely also have a hard time judging what is from grrm and what is show only, barring an explicit statement from him or D&D
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