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Post by nikma on May 12, 2019 22:20:07 GMT -5
So title was The Last War? Better than The Bells.
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Post by Envie on May 12, 2019 22:20:57 GMT -5
Dany is definitely on Arya's list now, yeah? As alcasinoroyale said, I don't think Arya's got a list anymore - I think Sandor finally convinced her to let it go. I just want her to ride off on that horse and never be seen or heard from again.
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Post by Nezzer on May 12, 2019 22:21:57 GMT -5
Dany is definitely on Arya's list now, yeah? I think Arya's list arc ended when she left the Red Keep. Great point, hopefully after this Arya can go back to having a normal life.
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Post by nikma on May 12, 2019 22:23:54 GMT -5
I made so much senss that Gregor will kill Qyburn. Lol why no one guessed it?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 22:25:54 GMT -5
I made so much senss that Gregor will kill Qyburn. Lol why no one guessed it? I was hoping Sandor to have some snarky remark ala "I was always better than you shits" when he carved through the Kingsguard like a cake
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Post by Maesteress on May 12, 2019 22:26:15 GMT -5
Her realization that Jon will never love her, never return her love, given his new knowledge of their relationship, plus her understanding that Westeros will never love her, never accept her as their Queen, she has lost everything, everyone, has nothing left. And she went postal. I have to disagree- I think Jon does love her. He doesn't throw around that phrase lightly. And I don't think them being related is the issue either. The problem is the same as what happened with Tyrion. Jon now fears her. His heart is breaking. When she asks him "Is that all I am to you? Your Queen?" He kisses her - until she grabs him fiercely...for me, that scene was about Jon realizing she is friggin scary...that he doesn't know what to expect from her (she basically threatened him and his family). So when he pulls away, it's because he's struggling with that - and she recognizes it immediately, which is why she says, "Then Fear it is."
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 22:26:20 GMT -5
I have to say. Not the biggest Kit Harington fan but damn seeing him going through all kinds of emotions denial, shock, disbelief, anger on how Dany started to burn things, how not only Unsullied, Dothraki but most of all also Northerners were killing everyone men, women and children. His own men betrayed him in a way again and including Northerners was also a very good element from Sapochnik, Weiss and Benioff.
In a way, Jon failed as a commander even tho he was in an impossible situation but he'll see it this way.
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Post by nikma on May 12, 2019 22:26:23 GMT -5
Free Folk will lose its mind lol.
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Post by Singer of Death on May 12, 2019 22:28:54 GMT -5
Dany is definitely on Arya's list now, yeah? As alcasinoroyale said, I don't think Arya's got a list anymore - I think Sandor finally convinced her to let it go. I just want her to ride off on that horse and never be seen or heard from again. I know this show loves to destroy character's developments and all, but I'm praying for a final hope that Arya is not the one to kill Dany. I'm hoping that she just ride on Sandor's horse and go back to Winterfell as that is the proper conclusion to her arc.
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Post by lordcarson on May 12, 2019 22:29:53 GMT -5
ok one the one hand, i've been so hoping jaime would kill cersei that now i'm kinda sad about how they died but:
the symbolism of cersei being crushed by the red keep, the ONE thing that she still valued, is beautiful. i just wish there wasn't so much build up for her having a different fate. if i hadn't wanted jaime to do it, i would have really loved that.
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Post by iheartseverus on May 12, 2019 22:33:55 GMT -5
Her realization that Jon will never love her, never return her love, given his new knowledge of their relationship, plus her understanding that Westeros will never love her, never accept her as their Queen, she has lost everything, everyone, has nothing left. And she went postal. I have to disagree- I think Jon does love her. He doesn't throw around that phrase lightly. And I don't think them being related is the issue either. The problem is the same as what happened with Tyrion. Jon now fears her. His heart is breaking. When she asks him "Is that all I am to you? Your Queen?" He kisses her - until she grabs him fiercely...for me, that scene was about Jon realizing she is friggin scary...that he doesn't know what to expect from her (she basically threatened him and his family). So when he pulls away, it's because he's struggling with that - and she recognizes it immediately, which is why she says, "Then Fear it is." Yes, this. You read that better than I did.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 22:35:01 GMT -5
Her realization that Jon will never love her, never return her love, given his new knowledge of their relationship, plus her understanding that Westeros will never love her, never accept her as their Queen, she has lost everything, everyone, has nothing left. And she went postal. I have to disagree- I think Jon does love her. He doesn't throw around that phrase lightly. And I don't think them being related is the issue either. The problem is the same as what happened with Tyrion. Jon now fears her. His heart is breaking. When she asks him "Is that all I am to you? Your Queen?" He kisses her - until she grabs him fiercely...for me, that scene was about Jon realizing she is friggin scary...that he doesn't know what to expect from her (she basically threatened him and his family). So when he pulls away, it's because he's struggling with that - and she recognizes it immediately, which is why she says, "Then Fear it is." Inside of the Episode Weiss and Benioff said pretty much that Jon can't return her affections anymore. Incest plays a part but also he fears her like Tyrion to some extent. She threatened his family too, let's not forget that.
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Post by TheMadQueen on May 12, 2019 22:36:17 GMT -5
maybe i just rewatched cersei's death scene and maybe a have a manly tear running down my cheek as a type this.
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