8x05 General Discussion: Post-Show

Pros of Jaime/Cersei death:

1.Ncw and Lena’s chemistry and acting
2.Being vindicated that Jaime never had a true redemption arc and would always love Cersei
3.Seeing normies and Cersei haters cry about not seeing her be abused and tortured
4.Ramin’s amazing soundtrack during both scenes
5.Confirmation that Jaime and Cersei will die together in the books
6.Dudebro Jaime fan and Braime shippers tears
7.Giving me SOME sense of closure which is better than nothing

Cons of Cersei/Jaime’s death:

1.Cersei being reduced to Jaime’s love interest and damsel in distress, are you fucking kidding me
2.ROCKS = Fucking stupid
3.rushed, should have drawn it out more and given them more dialogue
4.no valonqar, mercy kill or suicide pact instead of rocks would have been sooo much better

Yeah would have been better. 

Also it was out of character for Cersei to not have a vial of poison imo. I *do* want to give d&d some credit and say that Cersei crying so much better was probably them adapting the “and when your tears have drowned you” part of the prophecy.

but they shouldn’t have just made her into a crying victim what the hell lol. They should have let her be vulnerable and fierce at the same time 

Well I think Jaime being the valonqar in the books and dying with her is definitely confirmed now. So that’s something at least. 

the context though? Who knows....everyone thought it would be because Cersei torches KL but with how the D’s talked about Cersei burning the sept......that was a show invention imo and not something they got from grrm. I do absolutely think Cersei will get revenge against the high sparrow and tyrells in the books but I have no idea how.

and Dany ended up nuking KL so 🤷‍♀️

Tbh using strangulation as a method for killing when trying to save the day has been hard for me to buy anyways. That’s really intimate partner violence and a quick stabby stabby is much more effective for that lol

Finally someone gets me 😩

No. Because that would excuse Dany's genocide.

Rewatched the episode last night. I thought it was great. It reminded me of favorite moments from Revenge of the Sith, fire and vengeance. Beautiful and tragic imagery throughout the episode.

i found Cersei in boss ass bitch mode to be extremely entertaining. she employed these dudes, they be grown men but she little boy’d these dudes. (That’s from a song called boss ass bitch lol)

But at the end of the day, it has always been 1000% in character for her to freak tf out in the face of her own demise. When she thought all was lost during Blackwater, she was also crying, ready to kill herself and her son. I think that constitutes panic, to say the least. When she was being starved out in a cell by religious zealots, she was curled up in a ball screaming and crying, avoiding Unella’s gaze, and licking water off the floor. Again, in complete despair.

I completely understand the desire to have seen her to go out in a massive blaze of glory, I share this desire, but I just can’t with people acting like her character was assassinated or something. Like, did y’all watch the rest of the show? She was a paranoid hot mess from literally her first scene.