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Post by konradsmith on Jul 11, 2016 14:06:41 GMT -5
Took him quite a while. The only point I find to be disingenuous on his part here is his one about Daario. Because Dany said that he'd only be temporarily in charge until the people chose their own leaders. And the Slaver's Army was soundly defeated so he's wrong that they'll still come into play. Also it's funny he said that the show never explored post-war instability and blowback when that's what s4, s5 and s6 were entirely about...but other than being very off about Meereen, a good video from him.
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Post by Envie on Jul 11, 2016 14:13:55 GMT -5
Took him quite a while. The only point I find to be disingenuous on his part here is his one about Daario. Because Dany said that he'd only be temporarily in charge until the people chose their own leaders. And the Slaver's Army was soundly defeated so he's wrong that they'll still come into play. Also it's funny he said that the show never explored post-war instability and blowback when that's what s4, s5 and s6 were entirely about...but other than being very off about Meereen, a good video from him. Yeah I thought this one was better than some of his past ones - more on point. Takes him two weeks to make them haha. He usually notices cool things like how Gregor without his helm looks a lot like Darth Vader did without his and how he's Vader to Cersei's Emperor.
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Post by TheArchmaester on Jul 11, 2016 16:45:49 GMT -5
Took him quite a while. The only point I find to be disingenuous on his part here is his one about Daario. Because Dany said that he'd only be temporarily in charge until the people chose their own leaders. And the Slaver's Army was soundly defeated so he's wrong that they'll still come into play. Also it's funny he said that the show never explored post-war instability and blowback when that's what s4, s5 and s6 were entirely about...but other than being very off about Meereen, a good video from him. I'm glad that the show kept it real, though. There was no triumphant moment for Meereen in the finale, no grand speeches. Daenerys admitted she wanted to get the hell out of there. And it was strongly implied that the peace was barely kept by the demagogic pontifying of the red priests. There's no reason to believe that will last, masters or no masters. We'll probably never hear about it again though. The point that ruling is an ugly and thankless business has been made.
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Post by konradsmith on Jul 11, 2016 17:36:06 GMT -5
Took him quite a while. The only point I find to be disingenuous on his part here is his one about Daario. Because Dany said that he'd only be temporarily in charge until the people chose their own leaders. And the Slaver's Army was soundly defeated so he's wrong that they'll still come into play. Also it's funny he said that the show never explored post-war instability and blowback when that's what s4, s5 and s6 were entirely about...but other than being very off about Meereen, a good video from him. I'm glad that the show kept it real, though. There was no triumphant moment for Meereen in the finale, no grand speeches. Daenerys admitted she wanted to get the hell out of there. And it was strongly implied that the peace was barely kept by the demagogic pontifying of the red priests. There's no reason to believe that will last, masters or no masters. We'll probably never hear about it again though. The point that ruling is an ugly and thankless business has been made. Her leaving Daario behind also was in a way making it a more empty victory for her. One with a price. I think the peace will hold myself but as with what's coming in Westeros, Dany will find no joy in her success.
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Post by ladystoneboobs on Jul 13, 2016 1:45:16 GMT -5
Took him quite a while. The only point I find to be disingenuous on his part here is his one about Daario. Because Dany said that he'd only be temporarily in charge until the people chose their own leaders. And the Slaver's Army was soundly defeated so he's wrong that they'll still come into play. Also it's funny he said that the show never explored post-war instability and blowback when that's what s4, s5 and s6 were entirely about...but other than being very off about Meereen, a good video from him. Yeah I thought this one was better than some of his past ones - more on point. Takes him two weeks to make them haha. He usually notices cool things like how Gregor without his helm looks a lot like Darth Vader did without his and how he's Vader to Cersei's Emperor.
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Post by Nezzer on Jul 13, 2016 5:27:26 GMT -5
"Yeah I did whisper an actual sentence. I don't know what they're going to do going forward and I don't know what importance it has so I'm definitely not going to risk saying anything." If we never learn in the show what his true name is, maybe she'll tell us after it's over and all kinds of NDAs are no longer valid.
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Post by direwolf on Jul 13, 2016 7:36:29 GMT -5
I'm definitely going for Aemon as Jon's true name, which I assume would be the name Jon would choose as his regnal name anyway if he ever takes the Iron Throne due to his relationship with and high respect for Maester Aemon and the fact that he often used to play at being Aemon the Dragonknight with Robb when he was younger. Robb would always be the Lord of Winterfell. Not sure that it will become relevant in the show though, and also it is obviously a Targaryen name so the show runners might be trying to stretch out the reveal of his father for those who have not been paying enough attention.
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Post by moiaf on Jul 13, 2016 7:50:01 GMT -5
Took him quite a while. The only point I find to be disingenuous on his part here is his one about Daario. Because Dany said that he'd only be temporarily in charge until the people chose their own leaders. And the Slaver's Army was soundly defeated so he's wrong that they'll still come into play. Also it's funny he said that the show never explored post-war instability and blowback when that's what s4, s5 and s6 were entirely about...but other than being very off about Meereen, a good video from him. I'm glad that the show kept it real, though. There was no triumphant moment for Meereen in the finale, no grand speeches. Daenerys admitted she wanted to get the hell out of there. And it was strongly implied that the peace was barely kept by the demagogic pontifying of the red priests. There's no reason to believe that will last, masters or no masters. We'll probably never hear about it again though. The point that ruling is an ugly and thankless business has been made. I'm glad that the show kept it real, though. There was no triumphant moment for Meereen in the finale, no grand speeches. Daenerys admitted she wanted to get the hell out of there. And it was strongly implied that the peace was barely kept by the demagogic pontifying of the red priests. There's no reason to believe that will last, masters or no masters. We'll probably never hear about it again though. The point that ruling is an ugly and thankless business has been made. Her leaving Daario behind also was in a way making it a more empty victory for her. One with a price. I think the peace will hold myself but as with what's coming in Westeros, Dany will find no joy in her success. I thought the peace was very real. She took their entire fleet, their army ran away, killed the two biggest threads and scare the shot out of the other. The Seconds Sons were left behind to ensure a democratic selection of the next leader. But agree with you Konrad, she won't find that peace in Westeros. ETA: I forgot to add that she pretty much permanently crippled the slave trade by taking the Dothraki with her. They were the biggest slave traders in Essos, being nomadic and all they would take people from everywhere and bring them to Slaver's Bay. Without them there is really little to no trading of slaves.
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Post by Envie on Jul 13, 2016 7:58:34 GMT -5
"Yeah I did whisper an actual sentence. I don't know what they're going to do going forward and I don't know what importance it has so I'm definitely not going to risk saying anything." If we never learn in the show what his true name is, maybe she'll tell us after it's over and all kinds of NDAs are no longer valid. Right after the finale aired, this was such a heated topic on reddit and unfortunately quite a few media sources decided to copy/paste some random guy's proclamation that being a lip-reader, he could tell she said "Jahaerys" which is just as much a guess as any of us. Annoys me when people use reddit as a credible source. But anyways, I am mostly deaf in my left ear (ear drum damage at 20 from a scuba diving accident) and I DO read lips quite well. I argued strongly against Jahaerys because I could see Lyanna's lips come together after the "A" sound which indicates the "M" sound... so I thought she said "Aemon" ... Well, I watched it a few times and that was that. But now after some time, I think I could have been wrong too. I am not so sure now she said "Aemon" because she could have been saying "His name is ..." Both would require the same sounds and her facial expression is a grimace while she's talking which means her lips are already drawn in the way you pronounce "His" and "is" both so it's impossible to say if she's pronouncing those words. The director was very clever at obscuring this with camera angle and movement which makes it even more difficult. He cut the camera to Bran's face at that moment when she speaks a word after what looks like "Aemon" or "His name is" ... so I'm second-guessing my original argument. It's fun to speculate this riddle though, even if it doesn't really mean much for Jon himself (he'll always just be Jon Snow probably) ... we fans would love to know the true name!
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Post by mattpeto on Jul 13, 2016 8:15:11 GMT -5
I was hoping we would get another flashback but so far, it doesn't look promising.
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Post by Envie on Jul 13, 2016 9:15:32 GMT -5
I was hoping we would get another flashback but so far, it doesn't look promising. Well she did say they didn't tell her anything until she actually got the role what her part even was, so just like others in the cast have said, it's nearly impossible to know if she'll return for another scene. Even if they did contact her and say "We're going to do a tourney flashback for Season 7" she wouldn't tell us. She said she didn't even tell her closest friends about the part until the episode aired! Anything to do with Jon Snow is going to be top secret.
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