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Post by moiaf on Jul 30, 2017 14:21:17 GMT -5
I know there's other's here like Lils that are all about Jonerys, but you and I have been championing it for SO LONG! Sweet vindication is almost upon us. Funny enough, I think I may remember you from several years ago (2012 or 2013) in Westeros.org arguing those topics. I was mostly a lurker at the time but the tide on those forums were completely against this even possibly happening. I wonder if 'Apple Martini' is still around. I remember she in particular was vehemently against these two ever getting together. Her reaction to this would have be amazing OMG!!! Apple Martini, that's some ol' school crazy shit right there. Oh man, to see her face and that of a few others when what we all predicted will happen actually happens. That's awesome that you were part of the fandom back then, you must remember all the craziness we went through. There was some series Jonerys hate back then.
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Post by sercreighton on Jul 30, 2017 14:23:43 GMT -5
It's a good thing I have plenty of drugs to sedate myself, cause I am going to lose my shit tonight. Hey friend, glad you're back and doing well (if sedated) from your surgery! I am doing much better thanks, need 1 possibly two more minor surgeries. Out patient stuff. I don't take pain killers but they Perscribe them, so I got a whole bunch and bottle of 10 year old Sabon Prestige I have been saving just for this. A little let down with parts of episode 1 and 2 hoping for the pace to pick up a little.
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Post by moiaf on Jul 30, 2017 14:26:55 GMT -5
[article] But in this case, I'm referring more to the Asoiaf forum where only book discussion was allowed. There, everyone sneered at people who thought Jon and Dany might hook up at some point. Various arguments were used against them. I'm sure everyone here has heard those arguments a million times though so I don't need to restate them LOL
See, even when I read the books I could see the clues for Jon and Dany. Martin's parallels are masterful, but as has been discussed in great detail, they are truly given away during Dany's HotU visions.
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Post by sercreighton on Jul 30, 2017 16:38:08 GMT -5
Funny enough, I think I may remember you from several years ago (2012 or 2013) in Westeros.org arguing those topics. I was mostly a lurker at the time but the tide on those forums were completely against this even possibly happening. I wonder if 'Apple Martini' is still around. I remember she in particular was vehemently against these two ever getting together. Her reaction to this would have be amazing OMG!!! Apple Martini, that's some ol' school crazy shit right there. Oh man, to see her face and that of a few others when what we all predicted will happen actually happens. That's awesome that you were part of the fandom back then, you must remember all the craziness we went through. There was some series Jonerys hate back then. She sort of is, after the great blue rose debate she got destroyed on, she hid in the Jon Snow reread thread, then went into that wierd place the old forum has. I forget what it was called. She was super tight with some of the mods for some reason. She thought she owned that board, she was wrong. Nobody hated Dany more than her, it was nuts. She had a lot of suck ups who thought she new everything about the books. Trying to explain the obvious to her was like potty training an angry child, except the child eventually learns to stop playing with their own shit and to flush it down the toilet. Not that I had a problem with her. I used to refer to her and JQC as bat shit and crazy.
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Post by moiaf on Jul 30, 2017 17:32:10 GMT -5
OMG!!! Apple Martini, that's some ol' school crazy shit right there. Oh man, to see her face and that of a few others when what we all predicted will happen actually happens. That's awesome that you were part of the fandom back then, you must remember all the craziness we went through. There was some series Jonerys hate back then. She sort of is, after the great blue rose debate she got destroyed on, she hid in the Jon Snow reread thread, then went into that wierd place the old forum has. I forget what it was called. She was super tight with some of the mods for some reason. She thought she owned that board, she was wrong. Nobody hated Dany more than her, it was nuts. She had a lot of suck ups who thought she new everything about the books. Trying to explain the obvious to her was like potty training an angry child, except the child eventually learns to stop playing with their own shit and to flush it down the toilet. Not that I had a problem with her. I used to refer to her and JQC as bat shit and crazy. Yes, I remember that ridiculous debate. She could not admit that the window in the Red Keep had blue rose. It was crazy. I mean, imagine hating a chatacter that much that you can't admit what is right in front of your eyes. Those sycophants that followed her about and agreed with her in everything were the fucking worse. Speaking of JQC should be checked on. She might have a stroke after this season.
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Post by Lils on Jul 30, 2017 18:03:31 GMT -5
She sort of is, after the great blue rose debate she got destroyed on, she hid in the Jon Snow reread thread, then went into that wierd place the old forum has. I forget what it was called. She was super tight with some of the mods for some reason. She thought she owned that board, she was wrong. Nobody hated Dany more than her, it was nuts. She had a lot of suck ups who thought she new everything about the books. Trying to explain the obvious to her was like potty training an angry child, except the child eventually learns to stop playing with their own shit and to flush it down the toilet. Not that I had a problem with her. I used to refer to her and JQC as bat shit and crazy. Yes, I remember that ridiculous debate. She could not admit that the window in the Red Keep had blue rose. It was crazy. I mean, imagine hating a chatacter that much that you can't admit what is right in front of your eyes. Those sycophants that followed her about and agreed with her in everything were the fucking worse. Speaking of JQC should be checked on. She might have a stroke after this season. There will be a lot of salty tears this season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 18:20:15 GMT -5
My favorite anti-Jonerys argument was the supposed parallel between Dany, Viserys and the Florent bros. As if Jon is some judgemental POS that would hold that against her like the two situations were at all similar. They didn't even give their favorite character the benifit he deserves.
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Post by cjs on Jul 30, 2017 18:42:31 GMT -5
OMG!!! Apple Martini, that's some ol' school crazy shit right there. Oh man, to see her face and that of a few others when what we all predicted will happen actually happens. That's awesome that you were part of the fandom back then, you must remember all the craziness we went through. There was some series Jonerys hate back then. She sort of is, after the great blue rose debate she got destroyed on, she hid in the Jon Snow reread thread, then went into that wierd place the old forum has. I forget what it was called. She was super tight with some of the mods for some reason. She thought she owned that board, she was wrong. Nobody hated Dany more than her, it was nuts. She had a lot of suck ups who thought she new everything about the books. Trying to explain the obvious to her was like potty training an angry child, except the child eventually learns to stop playing with their own shit and to flush it down the toilet. Not that I had a problem with her. I used to refer to her and JQC as bat shit and crazy. What was the blue rose debate? I def was one who thought Apple knew all her shit in the beginning but it didn't take long to realize she was projecting her hatred of Dany onto the characters. Pretty sure she is on Quora now because there is a very popular contributer there who sounds just like her and hates Dany as much. But I won't share that since her real name is attached and that just feels weird JQC tho... Apple to me was just someone who really hated Dany and revolved all her theories around that. Which was annoying but nothing compared to JQC who is literally impossible to debate because she constantly contradicts herself and keeps going on and on about how evil Dany is, blah blah blah
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Post by moiaf on Jul 30, 2017 18:45:21 GMT -5
Yes, I remember that ridiculous debate. She could not admit that the window in the Red Keep had blue rose. It was crazy. I mean, imagine hating a chatacter that much that you can't admit what is right in front of your eyes. Those sycophants that followed her about and agreed with her in everything were the fucking worse. Speaking of JQC should be checked on. She might have a stroke after this season. There will be a lot of salty tears this season. I want my hashtag #oceanofsaltytears to trend but it hasn't picked up. Soon enough though, soon enough. My favorite anti-Jonerys argument was the supposed parallel between Dany, Viserys and the Florent bros. As if Jon is some judgemental POS that would hold that against her like the two situations were at all similar. They didn't even give their favorite character the benifit he deserves. That was the worse. Like Jon couldn't tell the difference. This is when you hate one character more than you love another.
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Post by Lils on Jul 30, 2017 19:22:36 GMT -5
I'm enjoying the shift with Jonsa shippers. With the coming meeting, some are reluctantly admitting that Dany will feel something, but Jon himself won't. Or he'll sleep with Dany, but to secure her as an ally and for the good of the North. But that last one is an old one.
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Post by Lils on Jul 30, 2017 21:18:11 GMT -5
Did anyone else get Rom-Com vibes from that scene on the balcony? "I'm not giving up my claim." "Well neither am I."
Tyrion was like Lumiere in Beauty and the Beast.
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Post by Envie on Jul 30, 2017 21:30:45 GMT -5
Tyrion was like Lumiere in Beauty and the Beast. This made me chuckle. They definitely don't really like each other much on first sight, do they? Now you've gone and gotten that song stuck in my head!
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Post by Lils on Jul 30, 2017 21:35:48 GMT -5
Tyrion was like Lumiere in Beauty and the Beast. This made me chuckle. They definitely don't really like each other much on first sight, do they? Now you've gone and gotten that song stuck in my head! Me thinks they doth protest too much. It's crazy how things shift when they are in a room together. It's hard to explain. But you have Emilia in these scenes with Tyrion, Jorah and Varys. She comes across as majestic and larger than life. Then she's in a scene with Jon and I'm thinking "Wow, they both seem so young." It's interesting how standing with each other made them lose that front of majesty and made them just human. It wasn't dialogue or looks, it was about body language and presence.
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