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Post by Lils on May 28, 2017 20:56:31 GMT -5
That's an interesting idea, spoiling that Arya/Cersei won't meet. Personally, I don't think killing Cersei was ever on the table for Arya. I never saw crossing Cersei (or The Mountain) off her list as a possibility. Those deaths are for someone else. I know this is a something that a lot of fans want (and many were mad she didn't kill Joffery), but I think it's really unlikely. I kind of see Cersei being the source of her own end.
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Post by Lils on May 28, 2017 20:59:11 GMT -5
It's interesting to see how similar the arguments against Jon or Dany are. I like both of them at the same level. I honestly think that on their own, they make a lot of mistakes because they are lacking the traits that the other possesses. Jon can be indecisive whereas Dany can sometimes be impetuous. They're both fairly good leaders, even in spite of the mistakes they make. I think when they come together, they'll become a yin yang situation. His flaws are smoothed over by Dany's virtues and vice versa. I want them both on the throne. I don't know. I think all of GRRM's characters are enjoyable, even when they can be cliche. They feel real and are fleshed out enough that people love them so much that they really feel their deaths. Mistakes don't bother, if they didn't make them they would not feel real. Like Jon at the Wall when he got the loan from the Iron Bank and had all these sort of grand ideas on spending it. All I was thinking was 16 year old with his first credit card, which to me is believable. Dany struggling with a slave culture in slavers bay, if she didn't struggle it would read as complete bullshit, the slavers are not going to roll over and think "gosh what a good speech she just gave slavery is totally wrong I see that now." Bran being a little rule breaker, kids break rules, Arya the rebel. Sansa going to Cersei. I kind of find it interesting that none of them are much like Ned, people often say they are. But Ned was pragmatic, and did not do well outside his own little bubble he had been living in. Jon is not that pragmatic, Bran is pure dreamer, Arya is a total rule breaker, Sansa was? Not sure what Sansa is but it was not Ned like. Funny how she is in the Vale as a teen like Ned was but LF is her mentor instead JA. Though she sort of has her own Robert. I think Jon has some Ned in him, I think he was more like Ned than Robb who I suspect was more like Brandon. Though Robb seemed to have his gift for Strategy. I do definitely love their mistakes. That's something I enjoy about this book. Every single character is flawed and it's actually relatable, even the ones that are considered cliche villains. There's always something understandable in their flaws.
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Post by day dreamer on May 28, 2017 21:11:22 GMT -5
That's an interesting idea, spoiling that Arya/Cersei won't meet. Personally, I don't think killing Cersei was ever on the table for Arya. I never saw crossing Cersei (or The Mountain) off her list as a possibility. Those deaths are for someone else. I know this is a something that a lot of fans want (and many were mad she didn't kill Joffery), but I think it's really unlikely. I kind of see Cersei being the source of her own end. I've never had a desire to see Arya kill Cersei personally, and she's one of my favorite characters. Obviously with the books you know the prophecy can't mean Arya, but even in the show I didn't want that. I'm always worried that they will turn Arya into a killing machine and just give her BA kills and no development. Especially after watching No One.
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Post by Lady Sansa's Direwolf on May 28, 2017 21:34:40 GMT -5
I've always hoped the Hound kills the Mountain, Jamie kills Cersei, and Theon kills Euron to save Yara.
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Post by Envie on May 28, 2017 21:38:50 GMT -5
More importantly if Cogman was referring to Arya/Cersei then it also means that Cersei is one name that Arya won't be crossing off her list it seems. It fits with what we know of the leaks anyways since according to Lads she stops at the Inn, finds out Jon's taken Winterfell back and heads north instead of to King's Landing. I never really thought Arya would get to cross Cersei off her list because far too many other people (who really deserve the right) want Cersei dead more than Arya.
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Post by belle on May 28, 2017 21:50:44 GMT -5
I wish I was a mega Jonerys shipper so I can get excited about boatsex the way that everyone else is. I'm excited but only in the way that I get excited about getting ice cream lol.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on May 28, 2017 22:02:40 GMT -5
I wish I was a mega Jonerys shipper so I can get excited about boatsex the way that everyone else is. I'm excited but only in the way that I get excited about getting ice cream lol. About the boatsex scene, if Dany becomes pregnant from it, it makes me question of the timeline of S8. I doubt The Night King would be waiting around 9 months for Dany to give birth and then attack. So I have no idea how that would even work unless she survives.
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Post by belle on May 28, 2017 22:13:48 GMT -5
I wish I was a mega Jonerys shipper so I can get excited about boatsex the way that everyone else is. I'm excited but only in the way that I get excited about getting ice cream lol. About the boatsex scene, if Dany becomes pregnant from it, it makes me question of the timeline of S8. I doubt The Night King would be waiting around 9 months for Dany to give birth and then attack.  So I have no idea how that would even work unless she survives. Yeah I think dany won't conveniently get pregnant after the war. I don't think she's going to get pregnant by boatsex anymore
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Post by Lils on May 28, 2017 22:14:41 GMT -5
I wish I was a mega Jonerys shipper so I can get excited about boatsex the way that everyone else is. I'm excited but only in the way that I get excited about getting ice cream lol. Ice cream is delicious. Who isn't excited for ice cream?
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Post by Lils on May 28, 2017 22:16:18 GMT -5
I know this is a something that a lot of fans want (and many were mad she didn't kill Joffery), but I think it's really unlikely. I kind of see Cersei being the source of her own end. I've never had a desire to see Arya kill Cersei personally, and she's one of my favorite characters. Obviously with the books you know the prophecy can't mean Arya, but even in the show I didn't want that. I'm always worried that they will turn Arya into a killing machine and just give her BA kills and no development. Especially after watching No One. I worry about that too. The show left out that part of the prophecy, so at least there is wiggle room for how she dies.
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Post by alcasinoroyale on May 28, 2017 22:18:49 GMT -5
About the boatsex scene, if Dany becomes pregnant from it, it makes me question of the timeline of S8. I doubt The Night King would be waiting around 9 months for Dany to give birth and then attack. So I have no idea how that would even work unless she survives. Yeah I think dany won't conveniently get pregnant after the war. I don't think she's going to get pregnant by boatsex anymoreYeah, it doesn't seem like there's even time for it so it wouldn't make sense.
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Post by konradsmith on May 28, 2017 22:30:58 GMT -5
I've always hoped the Hound kills the Mountain, Jamie kills Cersei, and Theon kills Euron to save Yara. 'Tis a dream I have. With Lads2 being confirmed legit and Euron returning to Cersei with the Golden Company, it's possible that Jaime, Sandor and Theon could deal with all three in the same episode in KL.
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Post by TheMadQueen on May 28, 2017 22:36:36 GMT -5
^^that reminds me. With Lads2 being confirmed, that helps my delusion that Jaime will lead an army against Cersei's. She has the Golden Company, so she'll need something to do with them in season 8. Jaime and the Lannister army vs Cersei and the Golden Company.
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Post by belle on May 28, 2017 22:38:05 GMT -5
Lmao I can honestly see the show having wightbowl over cleganebowl and having the NK kill the mountain instead
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Post by konradsmith on May 28, 2017 22:41:50 GMT -5
alcasinoroyale, it looks like Abyss isn't doing gfycats for the trailer this time around. So if either of us wants to make a post placing each shot from the trailer in its respective episode (in the cases where we're sure of it, that is), I guess we'll just have to use imgur images.
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