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Post by TheArchmaester on Aug 13, 2018 15:53:34 GMT -5
Newstar isn't a leaker, she's just summarizing some info and the rest is speculation. Most of that makes a lot of sense to me. That list of characters all feel like survivors: Sansa, Bran, Arya, Gendry, Sam, Tyrion etc. Others like Dany & Jon and Grey Worm & Missandei don't have to be dead, they can be in Essos or wherever. If I have to get nitpicky, only a couple of things feel odd: 1) Sophie Turner said the scene (the BIG dragonpit scene) took 5 days to shoot and that they were all exhausted by the end. Maybe they were just bored, but BoatsexBaby did mention special effects being involved, and that something huge and momentous would happen there. If it's a post-war summit, why the heavy special effects? Unless of course the vfx work was for nightshoot scenes. 2) I don't think Bran, Arya or Brienne will rule anything at the end, unlike the other characters mentioned. But I guess they could be present at the summit and leave KL soon afterwards.
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Post by ladystoneboobs on Aug 13, 2018 16:59:19 GMT -5
Was he ever really confirmed though by any source other than Newstar there? I know there were some airport photos where people thought they saw him but IIRC that same mistake was made about him in s7. I mean I hope Edmure's back and it makes sense with Robin being in the scene that it would be about the heads of the houses meeting but is Newstar summarizing info (potentially mistakenly) or giving us a scoop here? it was the part about him and gemma whelan staying in separate hotels seems like an odd hypothetical detail to make up and sounds like it would have come from another source originally. that's why i'm asking what gives.
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Post by belle on Aug 13, 2018 17:03:22 GMT -5
Newstar isn't a leaker, she's just summarizing some info and the rest is speculation. Most of that makes a lot of sense to me. That list of characters all feel like survivors: Sansa, Bran, Arya, Gendry, Sam, Tyrion etc. Others like Dany & Jon and Grey Worm & Missandei don't have to be dead, they can be in Essos or wherever. If I have to get nitpicky, only a couple of things feel odd: 1) Sophie Turner said the scene (the BIG dragonpit scene) took 5 days to shoot and that they were all exhausted by the end. Maybe they were just bored, but BoatsexBaby did mention special effects being involved, and that something huge and momentous would happen there. If it's a post-war summit, why the heavy special effects? Unless of course the vfx work was for nightshoot scenes. 2) I don't think Bran, Arya or Brienne will rule anything at the end, unlike the other characters mentioned. But I guess they could be present at the summit and leave KL soon afterwards. Yeah it being a post war summit is just their speculation. Tbh I don't really care what it is. I'm just glad to get confirmation it's for 8.06. To me it does hugely imply those characters survive the series and I'm glad for that because that's what I thought in the first place. And I like it when it seems like I've been right about something lol
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Post by TheArchmaester on Aug 13, 2018 18:38:46 GMT -5
Most of that makes a lot of sense to me. That list of characters all feel like survivors: Sansa, Bran, Arya, Gendry, Sam, Tyrion etc. Others like Dany & Jon and Grey Worm & Missandei don't have to be dead, they can be in Essos or wherever. If I have to get nitpicky, only a couple of things feel odd: 1) Sophie Turner said the scene (the BIG dragonpit scene) took 5 days to shoot and that they were all exhausted by the end. Maybe they were just bored, but BoatsexBaby did mention special effects being involved, and that something huge and momentous would happen there. If it's a post-war summit, why the heavy special effects? Unless of course the vfx work was for nightshoot scenes. 2) I don't think Bran, Arya or Brienne will rule anything at the end, unlike the other characters mentioned. But I guess they could be present at the summit and leave KL soon afterwards. Yeah it being a post war summit is just their speculation. Tbh I don't really care what it is. I'm just glad to get confirmation it's for 8.06. To me it does hugely imply those characters survive the series and I'm glad for that because that's what I thought in the first place. And I like it when it seems like I've been right about something lol To be fair, almost the entire main cast seems confirmed for 8.06 Those in bold I think will definitely make it, and some not in bold also have a shot imo. Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister[18]
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Ser Jaime Lannister[19]
Lena Headey as Queen Cersei Lannister[20]
Emilia Clarke as Queen Daenerys Targaryen[21]
Kit Harington as Jon Snow / Aegon Targaryen[22]
Liam Cunningham as Ser Davos Seaworth[23]
Sophie Turner as Lady Sansa Stark[24]
Maisie Williams as Arya Stark[25]
Carice van Houten as Melisandre[26] Nathalie Emmanuel as Missandei[27]
Alfie Allen as Theon Greyjoy[28] Gwendoline Christie as Brienne of Tarth[29]
Conleth Hill as Varys[30] John Bradley as Samwell Tarly[31]
Isaac Hempstead-Wright as Bran Stark[32]
Jerome Flynn as Bronn[33] Hannah Murray as Gilly[34]
Joe Dempsie as Gendry[35]
Kristofer Hivju as Tormund[36] Rory McCann as Sandor Clegane[37]
Iain Glen as Ser Jorah Mormont[38] Also likely to make it: Robin Arryn, Yohn Royce, Edmure, Yara, The Mountain, NK, Jaqen.
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Post by belle on Aug 13, 2018 19:06:02 GMT -5
Yeah it being a post war summit is just their speculation. Tbh I don't really care what it is. I'm just glad to get confirmation it's for 8.06. To me it does hugely imply those characters survive the series and I'm glad for that because that's what I thought in the first place. And I like it when it seems like I've been right about something lol To be fair, almost the entire main cast seems confirmed for 8.06 Those in bold I think will definitely make it, and some not in bold also have a shot imo. Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister[18]
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Ser Jaime Lannister[19]
Lena Headey as Queen Cersei Lannister[20]
Emilia Clarke as Queen Daenerys Targaryen[21]
Kit Harington as Jon Snow / Aegon Targaryen[22]
Liam Cunningham as Ser Davos Seaworth[23]
Sophie Turner as Lady Sansa Stark[24]
Maisie Williams as Arya Stark[25]
Carice van Houten as Melisandre[26] Nathalie Emmanuel as Missandei[27]
Alfie Allen as Theon Greyjoy[28] Gwendoline Christie as Brienne of Tarth[29]
Conleth Hill as Varys[30] John Bradley as Samwell Tarly[31]
Isaac Hempstead-Wright as Bran Stark[32]
Jerome Flynn as Bronn[33] Hannah Murray as Gilly[34]
Joe Dempsie as Gendry[35]
Kristofer Hivju as Tormund[36] Rory McCann as Sandor Clegane[37]
Iain Glen as Ser Jorah Mormont[38] Also likely to make it: Robin Arryn, Yohn Royce, Edmure, Yara, The Mountain, NK, Jaqen.Yeah I know pretty much most are confirmed lol. I just think Jaime and Cersei are goners and those two being killed in 8.06 means that no other starks, Lannisters or targs are dying
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Post by sercreighton on Aug 13, 2018 22:54:38 GMT -5
belle Problem with the Spain shoot, it was only 4 days, it's part of episode 6, but it's not nearly enough time to film a full episode. I can't see D&D filming the entire episode in the Dragon pit. Thrones usually uses multiple crews for one episode to cover differenc locations. Like Emilia in Spain and Kit in the UK. Then you have sound stage shooting. I also would not be surprised if D&D are shooting something for the credits, a goodbye to the fans. Maybe putting something together with old behind the scenes footage as well. We watched a lot of kids grow up on the show. Who knows, it's hard to tell what's up with so few shots. I still have clue why a small group is shooting in the pit. I know what some are speculating, but that's a short shoot, that' sounds like a scene or two. Hey less than a year to go, so almost there. I don’t think anyone is assuming they filmed the entire episode in Spain. It’s just nice to get confirmation of which exact episode the Spain filming was for. Episode six is probably the biggest curiosity. We all pretty much know without any spoilers that the NK will lose his war of? Well what ever his war is about. Then it's episode 6 the settling of the dust and closure. The dragon pit was a nice set, I am not sure why they are back, and there seem to be a lot of confirmed unconfirmed rumors. We got Sweet Robin and Edmure maybe? Kit was there but only left the hotel at night while the confirms were doing day shoots. So then a rumor started about night shoots. What the heck is Jon doing alone at the pit at night? I can't imagin Dany would ever want to go there. I love ancient ruins, but her whole mantra of dragons are not slaves, and the pit is the opposite of that. Its post sequel to Frozen, Frozen 2 the revenge of Olaf. Bring it on Dan... Elsa. Could be be a great council with like 10 people and Jon only shows up after everyones left. If I see a great council with like 10 people I am changing the channel. Any idea if a green screen was set up there?
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Post by sercreighton on Aug 13, 2018 22:58:24 GMT -5
Newstar isn't a leaker, she's just summarizing some info and the rest is speculation. Most of that makes a lot of sense to me. That list of characters all feel like survivors: Sansa, Bran, Arya, Gendry, Sam, Tyrion etc. Others like Dany & Jon and Grey Worm & Missandei don't have to be dead, they can be in Essos or wherever. If I have to get nitpicky, only a couple of things feel odd: 1) Sophie Turner said the scene (the BIG dragonpit scene) took 5 days to shoot and that they were all exhausted by the end. Maybe they were just bored, but BoatsexBaby did mention special effects being involved, and that something huge and momentous would happen there. If it's a post-war summit, why the heavy special effects? Unless of course the vfx work was for nightshoot scenes. 2) I don't think Bran, Arya or Brienne will rule anything at the end, unlike the other characters mentioned. But I guess they could be present at the summit and leave KL soon afterwards. Dany doesn't like the dragon pit, she is flying above it, and Jon only shows up at night to mope and write poetry in his secret journal. Maybe the others are there for the wedding of Sansa and Sweet Robin, Edmure gives away the bride.
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Post by sercreighton on Aug 13, 2018 23:11:32 GMT -5
To be fair, almost the entire main cast seems confirmed for 8.06 Those in bold I think will definitely make it, and some not in bold also have a shot imo. Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister[18]
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Ser Jaime Lannister[19]
Lena Headey as Queen Cersei Lannister[20]
Emilia Clarke as Queen Daenerys Targaryen[21]
Kit Harington as Jon Snow / Aegon Targaryen[22]
Liam Cunningham as Ser Davos Seaworth[23]
Sophie Turner as Lady Sansa Stark[24]
Maisie Williams as Arya Stark[25]
Carice van Houten as Melisandre[26] Nathalie Emmanuel as Missandei[27]
Alfie Allen as Theon Greyjoy[28] Gwendoline Christie as Brienne of Tarth[29]
Conleth Hill as Varys[30] John Bradley as Samwell Tarly[31]
Isaac Hempstead-Wright as Bran Stark[32]
Jerome Flynn as Bronn[33] Hannah Murray as Gilly[34]
Joe Dempsie as Gendry[35]
Kristofer Hivju as Tormund[36] Rory McCann as Sandor Clegane[37]
Iain Glen as Ser Jorah Mormont[38] Also likely to make it: Robin Arryn, Yohn Royce, Edmure, Yara, The Mountain, NK, Jaqen.Yeah I know pretty much most are confirmed lol. I just think Jaime and Cersei are goners and those two being killed in 8.06 means that no other starks, Lannisters or targs are dying See that seems weird to me, is there another battle or something post Olaf? You would figure all the big stuff is in episode 5. I can't see a second smaller battle right after 5. Could we get a trial?
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Post by moiaf on Aug 14, 2018 8:16:02 GMT -5
I’m with you on this. That’s what I’ve thought for a long time and until it’s proven robber wise I’m going with Jaime being the valonqar. I don’t get why so many people want to push back against it lol. It would make for seriously dramatic and compelling television. And there’s so much foreshadowing for it in the books and even in the show Jaime and Cersei are each other’s most important relationship. It’s just facts. I also think it’s super telling that the hands of gold song from ASOS for Tyrion/shae was about Jaime/Cersei on the show as I have always thought Jaime would end up paralleling Tyrion in killing the woman he loves. Out of all the prophecies mentioned in the books the one the Maggy gave to Cersei has plaid out almost exactly as Maggy predicted it would. The reason for that is that Cersei has been trying to beat the prophecy since the moment she heard it and everything she does to avoid makes so it happens exactly as predicted.
I see the valonqar being the same. She thinks it's Tyrion and it'll be Jaime.
Interesting theory, but I’m not sure if it would work. I mean, we have zero rules for any of this so it’s very possible he could get turned but on the other hand maybe because he’s already dead and not awakened by the NK whatever magic the NK has wouldn’t work on him. I like the idea, but it's sort of established that it wouldn't work. Both the Night King and the Red Priests can raise the dead, you got the ice zombies and the fire guys like Jon and Beric. It doesn't work on them. I really wish we got the book Others, they are much closer to Ice Vampires. Not blood suckers butthey can't take sunlight neither can the zombies who shut down. The epic long night looks to be both short and cloudy with a 100% chance of snow. They also talk in their own language, are suppose to be attractive in their own way, etc... We got the skinny silent "come at me bro Night King."
That's a good point. The fire wights can't be re- animated as wights and whatever the Mountain is he probably couldn't be reanimated as a wight either.
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Post by moiaf on Aug 14, 2018 8:20:47 GMT -5
Yeah I know pretty much most are confirmed lol. I just think Jaime and Cersei are goners and those two being killed in 8.06 means that no other starks, Lannisters or targs are dying See that seems weird to me, is there another battle or something post Olaf? You would figure all the big stuff is in episode 5. I can't see a second smaller battle right after 5. Could we get a trial? Maybe it'll be where Cersei will finally surrender the city, it's the same place where their original negotiation took place so it would make sense that it takes place there again.
Cersei might try to do one last underhanded thing and that's when Jaime kills her.
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Post by moiaf on Aug 14, 2018 8:24:22 GMT -5
So, do we think that Dany and Jon's baby will be born in 8x06?
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Post by moiaf on Aug 14, 2018 8:30:30 GMT -5
I dunno. If there were only a handful of white walkers, I thought Arya was going to kill a couple, Brienne could kill one, Jaime could kill one, Gendry another, etc. Jon or Dany would kill the NK and that would kill all wights ending the war. The main characters alone could take care of the whole WW issue. But now I don't know. Might be too convenient if killing the NK destroys all wights and all hundreds of white walkers. We're not even sure if eradicating all WWs is a good thing at this point the show/books have never given us a reason to question this. if some wws are left, which i do think is a possibility, it will be for dramatic purposes, not bc having them around is a good thing. I agree. I feel like if they are going to break the wheel, so to speak, than they need to do things differently from how they've been done before. They need to finish/destroy the WW once and for all. Not put them to sleep and leave them there for yet another generation to deal with.
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Post by belle on Aug 14, 2018 11:37:39 GMT -5
moiaf yes the maggy the frog prophecy and how Cersei brings her own downfall bc of it is pretty much a Shakespearean tragedy. Cersei is very similar to Macbeth + lady Macbeth when you think of it
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Post by daeronthegood on Aug 14, 2018 12:11:57 GMT -5
Umm did something go down? Was there some kind of leak? Some kind soul please explain to someone too lazy to read 4 pages?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 13:27:40 GMT -5
Umm did something go down? Was there some kind of leak? Some kind soul please explain to someone too lazy to read 4 pages? No leaks. Just some analysis of crew info on IMDb to give some clarity to what happened in Spain.
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