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Post by nikma on May 14, 2019 3:36:30 GMT -5
The show gave them what they wanted. But it shows them that what they wanted was horrible. And they don't like it.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 3:42:45 GMT -5
Nobody wanted to see her burning women and children AFTER the battle was won. We wanted to see her defeat Cersei. Period. If some innocents died indiscriminately that would have been one thing, but what we got was completely ooc for the Daenerys we’ve followed for years. Not sure what’s so hard to understand about that.
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Post by nikma on May 14, 2019 3:48:34 GMT -5
She wanted Dany to burn KL to the ground. She got that.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 3:53:06 GMT -5
Everyone knew during and after episode 4 that Cersei brought men, women and children to the Red Keep as a shield to dare Dany to attack them and kill the common folk. She did just that and especially on that part, it's karma biting back everyone wishing for her to do so in the previous episode. My sister as a big Dany fan said the same thing after episode 4 and during episode 5 realized she shouldn't have wished for that in the first place at all.
What happened in the streets is a whole another thing but again whoever thought that 'burning the whole thing down' as many fans wanted her to do after episode 4 will be without the deaths of thousands of innocent people? They're bound to be casualties and a lot of them considering 1 million of people is living in King's Landing and soldiers were mixed with common people running away from that chaos. This is the sadistic beauty of Game of Thrones. You want Dany to deliver justice for Missandei, Rhaegal it but then the hard realization of the price that has to be paid for that to happen. It's just not worth it, while you can try to understand her thoughts, emotional state it is a completely wrong thing to do.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 6:54:54 GMT -5
Also, whether it's OOC or not is pretty much up for debate. It's not a fact. I just talked to a couple of colleagues and to them it wasn't OOC at all. They fully expected Dany to react like this for reasons that have been discussed here. The opinions are divided.
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Post by day dreamer on May 14, 2019 6:58:43 GMT -5
Most of their reviews make no sense. They just want to criticize the show at this point. It's just one big echo chamber. GoT became too popular for its own good. I think they have high expectations and GoT normally puts quality material and these past few episodes have arguably not been that. I'd wager most of these critics don't WANT to criticize a show they love so much, I don't, but I also can't make excuses for when a good show makes poor choices.
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Post by atargbyanothername on May 14, 2019 7:28:36 GMT -5
I dont know if we are supposed to feel conflicted when Dany executes Varys or not but i fully supported her there. He plotted against her (and tried to poison her?!) before she had done anything more than fall into inconsolable grief. Of course he had to go
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 7:29:04 GMT -5
Also, whether it's OOC or not is pretty much up for debate. It's not a fact. I just talked to a couple of colleagues and to them it wasn't OOC at all. They fully expected Dany to react like this for reasons that have been discussed here. The opinions are divided. Good for your colleagues. To the overwhelming majority of the fan base AND the critics it was. Hence the abysmal ratings and the huge amount of outrage.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 7:31:29 GMT -5
Also, whether it's OOC or not is pretty much up for debate. It's not a fact. I just talked to a couple of colleagues and to them it wasn't OOC at all. They fully expected Dany to react like this for reasons that have been discussed here. The opinions are divided. Good for your colleagues. To the overwhelming majority of the fan base AND the critics it was. Hence the abysmal ratings and the huge amount of outrage. That still doesn't make it a fact. Enough people disagree with it.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 7:31:57 GMT -5
Most of their reviews make no sense. They just want to criticize the show at this point. It's just one big echo chamber. GoT became too popular for its own good. I think they have high expectations and GoT normally puts quality material and these past few episodes have arguably not been that. I'd wager most of these critics don't WANT to criticize a show they love so much, I don't, but I also can't make excuses for when a good show makes poor choices. Exacty. I feel like I’ve been pretty fair wrt the show over the years. I’m not quite a show apologist, but I’ve never once participated in a rant and rave thread either, but I’ve also never had such major complaints over stuff this big either. And no it’s not just about Dany. I was highly disappointed with how the twins were handled as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 7:35:00 GMT -5
I dont know if we are supposed to feel conflicted when Dany executes Varys or not but i fully supported her there. He plotted against her ( and tried to poison her?!) before she had done anything more than fall into inconsolable grief. Of course he had to go For the second time... That worthless fuck was definitely living on borrowed time. And his “BFF” moment with Tyrion (or however Weiss described it lol) didn’t make me feel bad for him in the slightest.
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Post by laurya on May 14, 2019 7:41:46 GMT -5
Also, whether it's OOC or not is pretty much up for debate. It's not a fact. I just talked to a couple of colleagues and to them it wasn't OOC at all. They fully expected Dany to react like this for reasons that have been discussed here. The opinions are divided. Good for your colleagues. To the overwhelming majority of the fan base AND the critics it was. Hence the abysmal ratings and the huge amount of outrage. Unless you did a scientific study on the overall ratings for 805, it is not a fact. It is a felt truth.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 7:48:00 GMT -5
Good for your colleagues. To the overwhelming majority of the fan base AND the critics it was. Hence the abysmal ratings and the huge amount of outrage. Unless you did a scientific study on the overall ratings for 805, it is not a fact. It is a felt truth. Currently a 6.9 on IMDb and 49% on Rotten Tomatoes. Pretty indicative of a poor reception, no? And I’ve seen almost unanimously negative reviews from most critics. But sure, it’s just a few butthurt fanboys and the typical haters...
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Post by Basil on May 14, 2019 7:50:08 GMT -5
I dont know if we are supposed to feel conflicted when Dany executes Varys or not but i fully supported her there. He plotted against her (and tried to poison her?!) before she had done anything more than fall into inconsolable grief. Of course he had to go I completely missed that Varys was trying to poison Dany. Okay, yeah, she absolutely did the right thing then. The whole thing with Varys wasn't very good writing in general, imo. How is he not smart enough to see that Jon would be a terrible king. Like, okay, he's a great fighter and kind of a nice guy, but he's so freaking dense. If he was king, his advisors and his enemies would play him like a damn fiddle all the time, he has like zero cunning. It makes no sense to me why Varys would turn on Dany when he did. The only thing missing was him mentioning how Dany is super emotional right now because she's probably on her period or something.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 7:51:59 GMT -5
That only means that it was divisive. I said so much before. It still doesn't make it a fact that Dany's behaviour was OOC. That question will always be up for debate. What are we even discussing right now?
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